michsnowfreak

The usual caveats apply, but the weeklies bring Winter back from late February lasting right through March

Here's a fun stat, and this will cover beavis' entire life. In the past 25 winters, 13 of the 25 saw double digit snow depth at Chicago. In the previous 25 winters before that, just 7 of the 25 saw double digit depths.

Actually I would use the 3 month window of DJF as our window for getting sustained snowcover. We can get snow way before and way after it but snow cover doesn't sustain itself as well. Recently we had the 9.2" snowstorm on November 11, 2019 and a 4.4" snowfall Apr 20, 2021. So the window is definitely there but obviously DJF is the best. Historically we've had some good March snowstorms but it's been awhile so we are due.

6" was constantly clogging my snow blower January 25th so I had no choice but to half shovel and half blow. I love any and all snow but wet snow is no joke to remove. Have to be careful.

This camera was a bust but I bet you it looks pretty in Dubuque. Probably looks like it looked here January 25th with deep wet snow caking to everything.

I'll be in the UP Feb 16-20 so it's hard to know what to root for lol.

This is classic. You don't want to include the 1880s, 1930s or 1950s because they skew things too warmly. But you wanna start at 1970 because it's realistic. Realistically the absolute coldest winters on record. It's also ironic that 1 unusually mild Winter is the "new normal" according to you but we can throw out whole decades that you don't like. Why don't we just start in 1990. You can watch the curve go up up as you've done since you grew up.

I'm glad I saw your reply because I was literally going to post the exact same thing. Anytime you want to see someone exaggerate the effects of climate change they're absolute number one job is to start a data set in 1970. By starting in the coldest decade on record you set an unrealistically cold baseline. The funny thing is for many in the Midwest and Great Lakes, the 1970s were not just the coldest decade (for winters) on record, they were *by far* the coldest on record.

The 1st step of what? Accepting cromarties constant trolling? I have no problem with our Winter climate here. We usually do fine whether it's a cold Winter or a mild Winter. The hot summers are what get on my nerves, But I will always be here to correct an inaccuracy when I see it.

When you resort to posting a CFS map the game has definitely jumped the shark. But I guess I'll play along.

That's a fascinating observation, especially since the 1990s winters were warmer than either the 2000s or the 2010s winters at Milwaukee 1990s- 26.4° 2000s- 25.6° 2010s- 25.8°

You play the trolling game well, I won't step on your toes for that. But be prepared to always be called out with stats. "Once we reach the cliff edge where most storms change from snow to rain", LMAO that's not even how weather works.

Considering snowfall averages are at all times highs for many areas, they very well may start to go down a little bit.

Lmao. Trolling to the highest degree. This Winter is absolutely not a new normal.

This. Times a million. I grew up in southeast Michigan so my standards are set on southeast Michigan Winters. You grow up getting interested in the weather when all you know is the weather that you experience. So to place such unrealistic standards on what's acceptable and what's not just seems weird to me. You will never ever be happy. Ill never forget when beavis called the winter of 2013-14 "decent" but had a whole list of complaints about it. I love snow probably more than Beavis. Some winters meet our expectations, some exceed them, and some fall short. Obviously this Winter is falling short. That's when you have to make the most of what you get. I was out multiple times the past several weeks enjoying the Winter wonderland instead of staring at my computer screen showing an impending warmup.

We definitely have more than 3 months of legit snow chances, it's pretty much a good 5 month window from mid November to mid April. But I'll take a huge pass on any Winter rain. I'd rather just be dry than have any rain.

I like cold springs. I'm the opposite of cromartie. I like every season colder than it should be lol. I havent looked at electric Grand Rapids, but here Winter has not been consistently mild. 2022-23: mild 2021-22: avg 2020-21: avg 2019-20: mild 2018-19: avg 2017-18: cold 2016-17: mild 2015-16: mild 2014-15: cold 2013-14: cold. The most consistency lately has been hot summers.

Bruh this is 3 days after the image he posted, on the same model. It's a short lived cold shot but my point is this guys literally picking a random image at 150 hours and saying Winter is over. Although, I looked him up, he's in Boston. With the southeast ridge battling increasing cold in Canada, Boston will likely have less cold than Milwaukee.

It's been forecast to be warm in mid February for weeks now. So this dude just randomly picks a screenshot and acts surprised by it? What's funny is 2 days later it's cold

2018 was the last March at DTW that had 3 or more days with 1"+ on the ground. But again we've had some fickle March's lately. In 2015 we had 13 days in a row, and 2014 we had 17 days in a row.

Many tend to complain profusely during average Winters. Hopefully this winter resets that mindset. I know other areas of the sub havent fared as well, but only 3 of the past 10 winters have featured below average snowfall here.

We just had our most sustained stretch of snow cover in the Detroit area this winter, 17 days. The other "stretch" was 7 days at Christmas. Just not a good year for snow cover. But I cannot believe anyone, beavis no less, would turn down a snowstorm because it'll melt in a few days lol. And by the way it is possible to roll off smaller streaks of snow cover in March, don't give up yet.

I work from home and my office set up is right by a window that looks out to my backyard. After snow had been on the ground for quite a while, opening the curtains this morning and seeing the grass just disgusted me. I literally want to close the curtains.

That is true. I guess I'm just not seeing any sharp difference that would suddenly lead to snow to just shut off. I mean I have no horse in this race so I don't care, but I just have a feeling it's a lot of bad luck and DC is bound to get slammed one of these years soon. It apparently had no problem snowing in years past in what you or i would consider an inferno winter. An average DC Winter in the cold 1970s would be the warmest Winter on record for Detroit or Chicago. Everything's relative.

1) we've had more than 2 weeks of winter in total 2) I never made predictions how long cold would stay. But I do contribute whether I like the weather or not. I don't disappear when it's mild as you do when it's cold or snowy 3) the term "torch" was coined right here on the weatherboards in March 2012. The word has lost its meaning when 37° in January is now called a "torch" 4) march 2012 redux is absolutely not happening