michsnowfreak

if a storm of that type happened in this subforum, even a watered down version, you'd have some mighty unhappy posters and some ecstatic ones lol. A death band of 35-40" with a pedestrian foot just a short distance away.

95-96 was terrible for snow. it was by far and away the most screwzone winter I've ever witnessed. the screwzone was Chicago to Detroit corridor. DTW only saw 27.6" of snow despite a cold winter and record snow in the upper Midwest and east coast. Only good think was an unexpected March 20 blizzard (or else we could have had a 20" season). I was only 12 at the time, and we've more than made up for it since then (the joke about the SE MI Snowmagnet)...but if I ever see a repeat i won't be all positivity like everyone thinks I am lol. Sounds good to me going into a new year. I'll take my chances with average temps in a nina!

do you have a list of modoki ninas? I'm unfamiliar with which years. its mid December rogue, its not staying quiet for the entire winter.

I agree. We have sort of lucked out in SE MI with 3 snowfalls so far, and there was a nice snow in a narrow band in Madison this week...but its largely been a crappy start for the midwest. not to say there won't be screwzones, but this quiet will not continue in a nina in the Midwest all winter.

Damn I wish I was in Binghamton. Here light snow has now been falling for 29 hours and counting lol. Just over 2" in total though it is the classic Christmas "mood snow" like they show on every movie ever invented that takes place during Christmas.

picked up 1.5" of sugar snow. Still snowing so may grind out more. Its the kind of snow that literally has the look and consistency of sugar. no fluff factor. Regardless it made for a beautiful evening last night for Holiday nights at Greenfield village. Driving sugar snow plus breathing thru a mask, not a great time to wear glasses

looks like an inch of sugar snow so far...keeps on grinding for a while.

Records didn't exist in Detroit in the 1860s, i wish they did. They 1880s were an interesting decade because there was a unique mix of very severe winters and very warm, snowless ones. The top 5 decades for 6"+ storms (just confirmed) 2010s (19) 1900s (17) 2000s (16) 1890s (15) 1920s & 1970s (14). in terms of total snowfall,ranking decades from snowiest to least snowy.... 2010s 1900s 1920s 1970s 2000s 1980s 1890s 1880s 1910s 1990s 1950s 1930s 1960s 1940s

me too, I love it! I'm working right now, looking at my Christmas tree and watching it snow.

The 1960s where actually pretty cold winters but we were a screw zone for snow. most insane would be Jan 26, 1967, the Chicago blizzard. DTW saw 4" of snow and a ton of ice. Drive a half hour north or west of there and you were over a foot. For 6"+ storms the best decades were 2010s, 2000s, 1970s.

We got 1.7" Nov 22 and 4.3" Nov 30/Dec 1. id say we are probably 0.8 or so so far today

Philly had 0.3" of snow TOTAL last winter and a winter storm warning now lol. that doesn't sound like pissed

As I've mentioned before, it seems to be mother nature is making up for the excess of severe winter weather 2007-2015. There have certainly been good snows and bouts of cold since (hello Jan 2019) but 3 of the past 4 winters have been subpar, even for areas that have done ok the snowfall department. We have a more consistent climate than the east where they can have near snowless winters or huge noreasters, but there are still cycles, ebbs and flows if you will.

What part of the northeast are you from? I'm guessing Boston based on your earlier post? Sorry to hear about the flight. my brother lived downtown Chicago and he's often missing the best snows compared to the suburbs but the Feb 2015 storm he got some crazy pics. A Midwest winter climate will be colder with more days of snowfall but the big storms just won't compare. Just how it is. Funny story...my brother is living in Willimantic CT for a year or so. His girlfriend loves snow. I've already told them that if they get a legit northeast storm im coming to visit. She was just pining for some snow and kept telling me she was so jealous when we had snow to start the month. Then they were anticipating a noreaster and got a rain logged 1 inch of snow. Poor girl has been dying to see some snow. They are now safely back in MI for the holidays...and CT will see its biggest storm in 5 years lol. At least she gets some snow today.

no way will this eclipse Dec 1st here.

That was one heck of a snowstorm apparently. The 1960s were not a good decade for big snowstorms locally, we missed most of the good ones. The blizzard of 1965 was by far the biggest storm of the decade, dropping 10-14" of snow (11" officially) and lots of drifting.

steady light snow is making a perfect setting for an outdoor Christmas event i have tonight.

Some of the cfs runs for January have had some insane cold. It's almost laughable. And that model tends to have a warm bias. It will be very interesting to see what transpires but id say the signal for cold is there.

Boston is wayyy better than NYC. A big dog is always better than anything else, there's no denying that. the very paltry snow amounts in between is why the east coast for a winter lover would suck from NYC south. Thats my take. Bostons run from late Jan to late Feb 2015 was unlike anything, even in a snowbelt. even that far north on the coast isn't all fun though...theyve also had 4 winters the last 20 years with 17" or less total snowfall. The past 2 winters COMBINED in Boston come out to an inch less than the yearly average, thats why you have New England meltdowns. every weenie regardless the climate is very "what have you done for me lately". This is some impressive stuff right here... Avg snowfall Detroit 1900-1999: 39.1" 2000-2020: 47.1" Chicago 1900-1999: 36.6" 2000-2020: 39.9" New York City 1900-1999: 26.3" 2000-2020: 31.6" Boston 1900-1999: 41.0" 2000-2020: 47.9"

Same winter as my big dog (17" Feb 1/2, 2015). A record amt of 6-12" storms the past decade, so no complaints...but exceeding a foot in a single storm is exciting stuff as its not common.

the Mets acting like the models. fwiw cfs ensembles are run daily and can have insane run to run changes.

I am just seeing this picture now. That's amazing. December 2001? Of course big dogs are the best, but if you have to choose between a steady diet of small and medium dogs every Winter versus a big dog every several years with potentially very little snow in between, consistency wins for me. My biggest dog is my favorite storm even though it was not the most ferocious or blizzardy of storms I've experienced. Your climate is great because you get the big storms from the Lake and sometimes the ocean, but you also get all the small and medium sized storms we get. Only downfall is your thaw/torch potential cutting down on snowpack. You may even make a C- on beavis scale lol

Just as it grinds my gears when you act as though all we get are 3-6 events, esp when the last decade has been great for 6+ and 10+ events. Maybe the slight increase in avg temperature is just what dr ordered for these to become more commonplace. a few bigger storms and a few less days of snowcover may be our future, who knows. Year round precipitation and snowfall has increased. im doing fine, good health to you as well.

It does seem to all the ensembles have storminess around Christmas. Get ready for model mania.

I frequently talk on Facebook with someone from Long Island, hes a fellow snow weenie. Actually met him on the weather boards many years ago, but I don't think he posts here anymore. Just as we are accustomed to our Great Lakes climate, he is accustomed to the East Coast climate. He would prefer frequent snow over big storms because he's a winter/cold lover. its all about preference. The total snow last Winter was 4.8" and Each time it snowed it turned immediately to rain so while officially in the books New York City went down with 2 days of snow on the ground last Winter they weren't even 2 full days. Boston is much better than New York City but even there is a bit feast/famine, just less extreme. Worcester on into Northern New England is where its at. Just like our lakes snow belts. Speaking of snow belts... It is just crazy to see that there is bare ground in much of the UP still. Obviously snows will be coming but what Im wondering is will it be enough to negate the bad start from a depth perspective. I consider mid February to early March the best time to go up North to see epic snow depths.