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Sarcasm I've also been following many of these issues for 50 years and have a pretty fair understanding of what's going on. In elementary school we got these science handout mini magazines that I was enamored with and a lot of our current climate issues were discussed long before they were fully understood but the people putting forth their ideas were mostly right. The transition period we've experienced over the last 30 years has pretty much proceeded on the schedule they proposed, not entirely but with the perspective that hindsight affords I'm not surprised by the results.

^^ Banter being the keyword. Sorry, I don't make it out of the regional subforums very often and forgot that there's one for cc. I guess I'll stick to saying stupid s**t here and avoid ideas that are likely without merit.

I'll go with the warming climate being influenced by humans but not because we're sloppy and emissions are too high. If we had paid attention and kept population growth reasonable and within the water and food production limits rather than watching it go over 8 billion people that need things it might have been manageable. What was the global population in ~1970?

I see way too much predicting how a model will behave rather than interpreting the current weather and then forecasting the potential going forward. When I took meteorology courses in college 35+ years ago we looked at what was happening in key areas of the hemisphere and drew maps for however many days in the future using a variety of methods to help determine what could happen. We obviously didn't have the computer power available now so we used science, math and historic references and made a few maps with different outcomes then tried to home in on the most likely result. Sometimes now I get the feeling that forecasting is done solely off what the model thinks it sees rather than what's actually happening.

Yes. Unfortunately many have become modelologists rather than meteorologists.

Really? Damn. I have about 2"

32/32 NE3-5 still mixed precip but looking much more wintry than rainy. Of course I have to leave to pick up the kid at LGA in a few minutes.

At least it sorta broke the drought. Lemonade and all of that.

37/37 NE3 mixed rain and snow It's miserable out there.

@sn0wIt was a very short lived episode and it turned to rain soon after so if you weren't awake and looking out you may have missed it.

My kid is supposed to get on a plane at 6:30 this evening in Rochester, I'm hoping the "good stuff" holds off until after that so she doesn't have to spend the night (or more) in the airport. @Brasiluvsnowmaybe your son can pick her up on his way by if everything gets messed up?

All through the Hudson Valley the differences are pretty dramatic based on elevation. My avg is somewhere near 50" for the last 30 years but many places within 25 miles are closer to 30" especially as you go lower and closer to the river.

Other than the dense .2" coating I got around 11:15pm during that burst of insanely huge flakes this was a net loss. There's nothing left on the ground, even my shovel piles are gone. Onward >>>>

Well that was fun for a few minutes.

32/32 E6 SN These are the biggest snowflakes I've ever seen, it's like snowballs falling from the sky Otherwise it has been white rain since a little after 3 this afternoon.

Heh, the snow that's falling is actually melting the snow that was on the ground. Gotta love Mahopac. Not

35 with white rain

Of course, 20 minutes ago I said I've had nothing and 10 minutes later the white rain started.

33/33/NE4 I've had no precip of any sort yet

I didn't know you were up there now. Yeah Patterson has some areas that have significantly different weather than most of the area. Where in the town are you? Here in Mahopac it's 31/29/E6 and it looks and feels like it wants to snow.

I'm ok with this one staying W and N, I have a bunch of driving around the metro to do on Friday.

It never gets dark in our house anymore. The best is when they go to FL for the winter the lights go on a motion sensor so they're constantly going on and off. I need a bb gun

I spent a summer in AK and it was cool to see the sun just barely get down to the horizon overnight.

I was only able to see a few meteors, not because of the moon but the neighbors outrageous amount of outdoor lights. I asked one that has 4 floodlights that are always on to turn them off until after 10 so I could watch the sky and he told me to fk off. He said that's what cars are for and I should get into one and leave There's not much snow on the ground here but it still looks more wintry than just stick season so I guess that's a win.

What about further east on 84 through the higher elevations on this side of the river?