SomeguyfromTakomaPark

And mass hasn’t reported yet for some reason...

I think one of the biggest challenges is fitness centers. By now a lot of people saw that study where one asymptomatic person sitting by an AC vent in a Hong Kong restaurant infected 10 other people downwind of the vent, many of which were well beyond 6 feet. Fitness centers seem ripe for this kind of spread with the fans, the AC pumping, and people panting as they work out. I wonder if people will work out in masks, that would certainly help.

I’ve noticed something that is bugging me about the framing of the economic consequences vs public health debate by the people arguing against lockdowns. People who are arguing that the economic consequences are worse than the direct covid deaths are comparing the current state of the economy to the pre pandemic economy. That pre pandemic economy would’ve been wiped away with or without lockdowns. What they should be comparing the current economy with is what the state of the economy would be without lockdowns. Without lockdowns the epidemic would be even more widespread, deaths would be way higher, hospital systems would be overwhelmed. There is an argument to made that the state of the economy with lockdowns is much better than it would’ve been without a lockdown. Either way, comparing the current economy to the pre pandemic economy and saying we shouldn’t have done a lockdown doesn’t make any sense IMO, since that economy would’ve been gone either way.

This is absolutely NOT political oppression. Political oppression has to be persecution of a particular group for a political purpose. This does not meet either of those criteria. It is a public health emergency.

I think you’re right that everyone wants to end the lockdowns ASAP but I also think most people are smart enough to know this is not political oppression and those protests are utterly moronic. By the middle of May most places will hopefully be well on their way to undoing the restrictions anyway.

I don’t think so. 0 polling data supports this. Fauci, local governments, health officials, personal doctors, and governors are all polling very high for trust. People rightfully believe what they’re being told from these sources. Anti vaccers holding up signs and shaking Alex jones hand isn’t going to spur a national movement.

NY only 4,700 new cases today on over 16,000 new tests. That’s the lowest case count in a long time and also the % positive is averaging under 30 everyday. Definitely signs the epidemic is decreasing in prevalence.

Yes I heard some interviews I believe from the Austin Texas protest and there were a few of them talking about how covid-19 is a lie, it’s some kind of media propaganda designed to hurt trump, etc etc. Maybe not 100% but it seems like a decent % of them were straight up tinfoil hat style conspiracy theorists.

Looking at these people I imagine there must be a lot of overlap with anti vaccers.

Worldometer with 96 new deaths in Maryland today, I’m guessing they just folded in all the probable deaths.

Yeah I’m not even worried about fully normal, I’m just looking forward to family/friend gatherings under 10 people. Seeing all the family and friends we haven’t been seeing.

I’m glad hogan is on top of this. Back to normal ish before summer would be AWESOME.

first time I’ve seen dc hospitalization data

this tracker is good for comparing

Yeah it’s really a shame. Hopefully this next round of PPP funding helps a little.

Yesterday was more tests than the last few days but the %positive actually went up.

Yeah, I would imagine with reduced capacity that may need to be enforced and a general reduction in visits, restaurants, movie theatres, etc would have to raise prices.

Still hanging around 25% positive, waiting for that number to start dropping off a little but it's been stubborn.

I’ve been wondering about the lasting impacts from this. In the future, after a vaccine, do we expect that people that people might still wear masks more? Like if someone just has a cold but wants to go to work anyway.

Yeah, exactly. Their numbers probably aren't accurate, but the broad strokes of what happened in terms of where the virus spread seem to be accurate. International observers like the WHO and others confirmed this.

Yes, very true. If you look at China, they obviously have way more big cities than anyone but that didn’t preclude them from keeping it confined to one province.

Massachusetts and Pennsylvania seem to be a little behind NYC/NJ/MICH/LA in terms of peak. Hopefully after those two places peak that will be the last major hot spots where we see 100+ deaths per day. Still possible our region has a later peak I guess but maybe our social distancing has smoothed it enough we’re just less severe plateau. Either way encouraging signs all around!

Another good sign I’ve been noticing is case counts and deaths seem to have fallen off a cliff in Louisiana and Michigan. Glad to see a big downswing in those places.

Holding under 25k new cases for the day and NY with only around 6k, one of the lowest new case count days I can remember. Hopefully this continues through the week.

Hey, but like I said last night, in order to try to keep this thread a little more focused and less sloppy I’m going to reduce my back and forths with you. Cheers!