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July 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to Rtd208's topic in New York City Metro
funny thing is we still hit 104 in the 1977 el nino summer and had that big black out -
thats why I find this storm so intriguing, it caused way more damage to the Jersey shore than would be expected with that kind of landfall. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1944_Great_Atlantic_hurricane#Jersey_Shore as a matter of fact, that storm tracked significantly farther east than Gloria lol.
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July 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to Rtd208's topic in New York City Metro
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1944 is an extremely underrated TC....there were reports of 200 mph wind gusts from coastal NJ? Lots of damage there. That was a true coastal hugger. a record hot summer too.....1944 was a fascinating year. I think Aug 1893 is the only hurricane on this list that actually made landfall in the 5 boros? Uncle, do you have a track/intensity map for Sept 1882 (our rainiest month ever, almost nudged out by October 2005), I haven't seen a map for that storm. Uncle, I found something else pretty amazing that happened in Sept 1882! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Comet_of_1882 The Great Comet of 1882 formally designated C/1882 R1, 1882 II, and 1882b, was a comet which became very bright in September 1882. It was a member of the Kreutz Sungrazers, a family of comets which pass within 1 R☉ of the Sun's photosphere at perihelion.[1][2] The comet was bright enough to be visible next to the Sun in the daytime sky at its perihelion.[3]
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Yes, a Cat 3 wind gust! I wonder if they shut down the bridges during that storm?
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Yes, we didn't get anywhere near as much rain from Floyd as you did, here it was around 3-4 inches. I remember NE PA got 10" or more a real drought buster in 1999! Gloria had much more rainfall over NYC; we had heavy rain too, but it came to an abrupt end as the center zoomed north at around 70 mph. And a whole lot of nothing on the other side lol. Vermont was a disaster area in Irene. The three states that suffered the most from Irene were NC, NJ and VT. Sounds like your part of NYS suffered pretty badly too. We had heavy rain but nowhere near what you got. August 2011 was extremely rainy for us though (similar to October 2005), we had about 10" of rain on a Saturday from a separate event (training storms.)
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Yes the winds are almost always stronger to the east of the eye, but the rainfall totals are usually higher to the west..... parts of the 5 boros had somewhere between 5 and 6 inches of rain from it?
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Based on the 100 mile rule, if you want the heaviest rainfall from a TC you want it the center to be about 100 miles to your east. I remember when Gloria made LF near Bay Shore, the heaviest rains were right over NYC. When Bob made LF between MTP and Block Island, the heaviest rains were in Queens and Nassau County. When Floyd made landfall on Jones Beach, the heaviest rains were in NJ and NE PA. When Irene made landfall near Coney Island, the heaviest rains were in NJ. When Bertha made landfall near JFK the heaviest rains were in the Poconos. etc.....
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Yep, I personally dont remember it but I remember Gloria lol. Didn't Henry make landfall just before Gloria did? I remember days of rainfall before Gloria hit, maybe that was Henry?
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Yeah something like Isabel but farther NE than that storm.
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Right and ironically, I believe Hazel had the strongest winds (it made landfall in the SE and cut west of us.) Carol was the only one that made LF on Long Island, while Edna clipped Cape Cod. Interesting that 1954 was the year before the 11 yr cyclic peak summer of 1955 and we're in the same spot again this year.
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July 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to Rtd208's topic in New York City Metro
Chris, based on Tony's update JFK is already up to 11: -
Waiting for today's update, Tony
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wow the 1950s to 1960 were a tropical "paradise" around here- didn't one of those years have three TC's hit the northeast? Was that the same year that Carol happened?
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this is a large sized storm, but not strong- as of yet. It seems like the large storms that aren't very strong are the ones that get least disrupted by land.
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July 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to Rtd208's topic in New York City Metro
Wow very close to the top, I didn't realize it was that close. It makes me wonder how much hotter next summer's going to be, at the peak of the 11 year cycle..... -
in 1985 we had Gloria and one insignificant TS that hit eastern LI
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July 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to Rtd208's topic in New York City Metro
wow so close to an 80 avg! This is the first time JFK has had a 79+ avg temp for July without any 100 degree days! Will NYC make it to an 80 avg this July, Chris? I think NYC hit 90 today but not JFK? Do you have any records for JFK most number of 90 degree days per month? Are July 2010, July 1999 and July 1993 at the top of their list? -
Besides 1938 what were the other majors that hit Long Island or NYC? 1944? Carol? Donna? Maybe that 1821 hurricane? I cant think of any others.
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it's ironic because Gloria was mapped out to be a 130 mph borderline Cat 4 when it was abreast of ACY- that was obviously not right.
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July 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to Rtd208's topic in New York City Metro
1999 had one of our hottest Julys. I'd think that 1993 would also be on this list- July 1993 and July 1999 were the only months when NYC reached 90 degrees 20x in a month. Weird that 2010 isn't on this list too. -
July 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to Rtd208's topic in New York City Metro
How did they do that? it's been overcast all day here! -
July 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to Rtd208's topic in New York City Metro
I looked back at number of 90 degree days and we haven't been having that many since 2014 or so. I think the most we had in one year was 20 and all the others were in the teens. This is a florida kind of climate, they dont hit 100 there much either. -
thats correct, this is a typical path where NYC and western Nassau dont get much in the way of wind effects.....we do get heavier rain, which is typically about 100 miles west of the center track, but the winds typically arent any stronger than what you'd normally see from a noreaster.
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right and it wasn't a tropical cyclone up here, that's why we didn't have any tropical cyclone watches or warnings.
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