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December 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to bluewave's topic in New York City Metro
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
it's made it down here too! nice big flakes coming down- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
wow it moved down here too and now we're getting higher snowfall rates again after the sun came out for awhile. I heard this is a gravity wave- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
that storm had an eye like structure and so does this one now! these abnormally warm SST we've had for a few years now must have something to do with all this.- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
looks like December 1995 was a nice analog for this storm especially in the local area.- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
yeah when it switched back to heavy snow and wind at 3:30 AM here in SW Long Island it was quite the event for a few hours.- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
sound effect, just like in Dec 1995 on the back end- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Yeah two crazy things I remember....that Feb 2013 event and another event at ISLIP where they had like 13" of RAIN.- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
yes temps crashed to mid 20s before 4 am- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
yes and the mini blizzard at the back end for a few hours was quite the spectacle!- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
I think the JFK number will be between 7-8 inches we overperformed on the back end- 1,011 replies
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Feb 2013 that almost dumped 40 inches on eastern LI and CT- 1,011 replies
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Thanks, Chris. BTW this was YOUR storm since you called it first. And I like that they are keeping the NAM around until a new model can replace it that has at least a similar level of functionality.
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Is it ever possible for a coastal region at our latitude to get 40" from a single storm? I know we've done 30....but 40?!
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Dec 1995 LGA got 14" as a result of sound effect after the main event while CPK only had 8"
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eh mostly we dry slotted around midnight and switched to a mix for a time between 1 am and 3 am then back to snow at 3:30 am and then it got heavy
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December 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to bluewave's topic in New York City Metro
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December 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to bluewave's topic in New York City Metro
cant forget that 1898-99 season. I think the 34 inches at Cape May during the historic Feb 1899 is still the record for highest snowfall total in a coastal location from a single storm. -
December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Yeah it totally looks like a postcard scene outside. And I just read that there's a good chance we could get another one, right around Christmas. I dont know what could be better than that!- 1,011 replies
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Yes haha for some reason I was outside and documented the first flakes that fell around 2:30 PM and counted like 10 flakes between 2:30 and 2:42 PM and then the storm started to get down to business here after 2:45 PM. It started sticking as soon as the snow got heavier, around 3 PM and it definitely felt like the middle of winter for a few hours after that and also early this morning between 3:30 AM and 7 AM
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December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Finally found another happy person! I'm excited that it looks so wintry outside, the wind is howling and we are occupied with something other than this godawful pandemic. Still flaking outside, I've been up since 3:30 am and enjoying every second second of this since the temps crashed and it changed back to all snow and the winds started screaming.- 1,011 replies
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December 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to bluewave's topic in New York City Metro
Yes, and I think we've shown that la ninas that come after el ninos can be especially snowy (maybe that was a factor here too, although last winter certainly didn't behave like an el nino). What I find curious is that the predictions for the snowy March in the 17-18 winter were quite good and some even compared it to 55-56 before that winter even began. What was going on in 17-18 that made people feel so good about a snowy March (and early April!) that year, Chris? The interesting thing about 15-16 vs 82-83 is first of all how historic the warmth in Dec 15 was and secondly how our peak historic snowstorms have migrated from Feb to Jan! From what I recall, before the last couple of decades there weren't nearly as many 20" Jan snowstorms as we've had since.....most of them happened in Feb. Jan before the 90s was characteristically a cold and dry month and if it wasn't dry it was on account of a few small snowfalls rather than one huge one. 2008-09 was the only winter in recent memory that I can recall following the old pattern that used to be so dominant. Probably not coincidentally, it was also an endangered species in another manner....a nearly average snowfall season! -
yup sw long island too, we changed back to snow a lot sooner than the north shore of suffolk county did, I thoroughly enjoyed the three hours of white out conditions I had beginning at 3:30 am with heavy snow and high winds.
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You were off on JFK..... I'm 4 miles east of there and I got 4 inches in the first part of the storm and about 3 in the second half (which I found more exciting because of the high winds and whiteout conditions).
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why is the NAM being replaced when it's been doing so well?
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