LibertyBell

maybe the lack of arctic highs entering further east has to do with the arctic warming and the glacier melt over Greenland.

hence why a cold November is usually a bad sign for winters here lol. the exceptions were all la ninas? nope 2002 was a major el nino exception (but it also had a hot summer so that may partially explain it- a late onset el nino.) 2013 and 2014 weren't la ninas either were there?

I'm not even sure why people bother with long term forecasting. Long term forecasting will be accurate when humans learn to control the weather!

wow 1917-18 only had one major snowstorm even though 60" of snow fell that year and it was below zero multiple times?

Between Jan 20 and Mar 20 BOOK IT!

thats a big change! what has neutralized the effect of UHI? The fact that we've had fresh arctic masses coming in every few days rather than a lingering stale arctic air mass?

Wow that is pretty good! With the arctic shot coming in for the start of the weekend, we'll break that record (for the first 16-17 days anyway.)

Interesting that neither last November or the one before are on this list- both were very cold! Also interesting not to see the very snowy and cold November 1989 and November 2012 not on this list.

I am actually more enthusiastic because we didn't see any accumulating snow in November

We must divorce our emotions from what the planet does to regulate itself. The system as a whole is more significant than any of its parts. With that said, I want to go after these greedy bastards who screw with the environment too! I want THEM to sink first.

In the original unedited post that wasn't mentioned. Either way, this "cold streak" was an island of cold in a sea of warmth. Unprecedented warmth was surrounding it on all sides.

Dec -NAO (specifically late Dec -NAO) has a nice correlation to winter time predominant -NAO. Dont know about late November, I thought most of the forecasts were for a warming trend for the end of the month and the beginning of December?

Looks like another offshore low later in the week, by then temps will be in the mid 50s.

like last year lol

huh ABC was saying the record is from 1873 and is 22 degrees too? what weather station are they using for their info?

Based on what we've been seeing the last few years and how this season has started, it's reasonable to assume this will be a backloaded winter, with the majority of the snow in February and March. Maybe something minor in December to whet the appetite?

whats keeping those winds from hitting us though?

the move that happened because people were stealing their stuff? why not just put a fence around the castle....

Looks like there's a coastal possible around Hatteras in that same 11/20 time frame.

the usage of pesticides also has a large impact on pollinator populations. Bayer is a major villain in this. Also read this: New movie coming out about DuPont, PFOA/PFOS contamination, etc., on November 22nd, based on some of the things I've already mentioned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Waters_(2019_film) The movie is reportedly based on the 2016 article "The Lawyer Who Became DuPont's Worst Nightmare" by Nathaniel Rich, published in The New York Times Magazine.[3][4] Much of the underlying story was first reported in-depth by two other journalists, Mariah Blake, whose 2015 article, "Welcome to Beautiful Parkersburg, West Virginia," ran in HuffPost Highline[5] and was a National Magazine Award finalist,[6] and Sharon Lerner, whose series, Bad Chemistry, ran in the Intercept.[7][8][9] https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/10/magazine/the-lawyer-who-became-duponts-worst-nightmare.html https://deadline.com/2019/01/anne-hathaway-tim-robbins-mark-ruffalo-todd-haynes-dupont-pollution-scandal-1202532048/ https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/welcome-to-beautiful-parkersburg/ https://theintercept.com/2015/08/17/teflon-toxin-case-against-dupont/ https://theintercept.com/2015/08/11/dupont-chemistry-deception/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Waters_(2019_film)#cite_note-9 Inspired by a shocking true story, a tenacious attorney (Ruffalo) uncovers a dark secret that connects a growing number of unexplained deaths due to one of the world's largest corporations, DuPont. In the process, he risks everything – his future, his family, and his own life – to expose the truth.

it doesn't have to be sentient to be self-regulating. It's logical that for life in general to survive for billions of years, the planet must have some sort of self-regulation in place. Otherwise life wouldn't have made it this far. Ironically, it may mean the end of any species that decides to dominate the rest of the planet- because that's not good for sustainability. We may have or be in the process of pulling the kill-switch on ourselves.

Gaia isn't science fiction, the idea of the planet self-regulating has merit.

and they already had their hottest summer ever just a couple years ago

wow that was a long time ago and during a snow drought

Part of the reason for that is the higher elevation in the West. Look at the wildfires in California, which now happen year-round rather than seasonally.