LibertyBell

our new wetter climate has also increased allergies (especially mold and mildew) and raised humidity levels. It used to be only very strong el ninos that made our climate this wet, now it's everything!

what about in years when we have a broader trough (cold air all across the US, including both coasts.)

So it's true in fact, there are many many more bad patterns than there are good ones. Based on past winter experiences, I'd say the bad patterns outnumber good patterns for snow by something like 80% to 20%

looks like it's mixing with snow here also

we've had all sorts of amazing storms over the past decade and more, but they'll never be satisfied lol.

summer temps got less accurate after the asos was put in lol and wind too

Hi, do you also have snowfall data from the early and mid 1800s? 1826-1864 from Jamiaca N.Y...1865-1868- Central Park... years.................ave..........lowest........highest 1826-1835.......37.95"........28.78"........55.67" 1836-1845.......36.67"........32.13"........44.57" 1846-1855.......39.50"........30.08"........46.40" 1856-1865.......41.30"........31.08"........59.68" 1866-1869.......48.57"........38.26"........57.40" 4yr ave...

Yes thats what put it 3rd on my list, I have Jan 2016, Feb 2003 and Jan 1996 in that order. The second day of the storm was a bit of a disappointment.

Yes, I think this storm is being underplayed. 1-3 inches on top of wet roads can be hazardous, most accidents happen during and just after light snowfalls.

Our locals are going for 2-3 inches for the city and long island and 3-5 inches north and west of us, with accumulating snow between 5 AM and 2 PM

The weather sure isn't boring. I'm looking forward to the event on Wednesday.

Snow pack doesn't matter much for the heavily populated areas since it all gets dirty pretty quickly anyway. For the mountains it matters, and it seems like the mountains have been having a pretty good snowfall season. The ideal scenario is probably long duration snow cover for the mountains and transient snowfalls for the coast. If we get one 1-3 incher every week, those add up. The 6+ or even 12+ inchers can wait until January and February, we dont want to cripple traffic during peak holiday travel and shopping season lol. If we get 3x 1-3 inchers in December, a few more of them in January and February, plus two or three 6+ inchers in January and February and a few 1-3 inchers in March, that will get most of us to at or above average snowfall.

Average out the two and see what you get.

the winds must have been amazing! higher LE directly correlates to the difficulty in shoveling it lol

I always forget that March 1914 storm, wasn't that a triple phaser? And of course, Dec 1947 belongs on this list. Wow we had another big LE wintry storm almost exactly a year after Feb 1920.

Chris is that drop actually going to occur during the storm? That might be another two part storm!

Yes! I like to put the 3" LE all frozen storms in a category of their own. The only one I had like that which was all snow was Jan 2016. Looks like you had even more with Feb 2013. The highest snowfall totals I read about were around 40"! Feb 1961 and perhaps the snowicane in Feb 2010 belong in that list too. Two ancient storms that probably also belong on that list are the blizzard of Mar 1888 and Feb 1920.

Wow, some things dont change, remember when the LIE was closed for miles after the February blizzard in 2013? Would you say the impact of Feb 1978 was similar to that?

I think so! I remember seeing it in a scientific equipment catalog years ago.

where did you get accurate analog stuff? none of mine seemed to work right until I went all digital.

Remember when we were saying JFK was coming close to having its earliest last snowfall lol?

We came up with the idea (well Chris did) that it takes time for the pattern to reload, especially after such an anomalous early season snowfall. If the first snowfall is later, then it's not so anomalous.

Feb 1983 was the prototype for Jan 1996, PD2 and Jan 2016. The odd storm out was Jan 1996, which happened in an la nina, the others were all el nino.

I cant wait for when we stop complaining about JFK snowfall measurements when JFK is underwater /sarcasm

Looks like the Gulf Stream is the most rapidly warming part of the Atlantic, thanks to AGW?