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December 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to bluewave's topic in New York City Metro
Count me in as an ENSO skeptic, I've lived long enough to have experienced great la ninas and horrible el ninos.....I just dont think the science is there to use ENSO alone as an indicator.....other factors are more important like the NAO and AO. But we use ENSO out of sheer laziness, because it is the easiest to predict. -
December 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to bluewave's topic in New York City Metro
The end of the storm was more exciting than the beginning....it changed back to all snow here at 3:30 AM (even while the north shore of Suffolk County was still raining I might add), and it snowed hard here for 3 hours with high winds and almost white out conditions as the temperatures crashed into the upper 20s by 4 AM. The wind blew so hard that I saw transformers popping like lightning and my power flickered! I heard the airports all had snowfall records for the date (I assume that was for yesterday). What were the totals as of now, Don? -
December 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to bluewave's topic in New York City Metro
New Euro looks amazing has 12 inches for extreme eastern LI -
it would be nice if he did a personalized snow report for my "other home" which is just north of Tatamy and at 2000 ft
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new EURO has 12 inches for extreme eastern LI? wow 15 for the city
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The Miller Cs which are supposed to be the most rare. I think PD2 was that
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You know what this kind of reminds me of? Two storms....we had a storm in Dec 1995 at the start of the cold pattern that had 7" at JFK 8" at NYC and 14" at LGA....lingering backend snows after it changed back over from rain to snow and that caused a plain to slide off the runway. The other one was Jan 26 2011 without the amazing back end that storm had, but also had a dry slot and then a changeover from sleet to snow.
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LibertyBell replied to bluewave's topic in New York City Metro
Don, would JFK be in the same 5-10 range? -
Think the western part of the south shore is a better place to be than the eastern part? Remember in March 1993 on a more westward track, JFK and Oceanside still got double digit snowfall while eastern parts of the south shore did much worse. Also how much snow on the backside tomorrow?
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thats not a classic noreaster lol- in the weather textbook I read Feb 1983 was mentioned as a classic noreaster, look that one up.
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So that should mean we should have much more snow vs anything else?
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I got a question perhaps you can answer....other storms that have taken this same or very similar track have been all snow, what's keeping that from happening with this one, it looks like it will pass considerably south of Long Island (like by more than 50 miles)
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YAY thanks a bunch RJay! You dont get this kind of personalized attention anywhere else!
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MPO is Mount Pocono KIPT is Williamsport
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so that 30.9 measurement at JFK in the Jan 2016J storm would've been max snow depth at the end?
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wasn't the 1996 storm all snow? didn't break that record until 2016 here although 2003 came close.
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You'd be the right person to ask this then- was the JFK measurement of over 30" for the Jan 2016 HECS an end of storm total (that is, total snow cover at that time?)
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then you have other la nina winters like 55-56 or the one we had a few years ago which has the most snow in March....why were those different? Even if this is a frontloaded winter, if we use 10-11 as an example we could get another HECS in the latter third of Jan, like around the 25th or so.
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I really wish I was in my other home for this.....it's south of I-80 and just north of Allentown (halfway between ABE and MPO actually) but at 2,000 ft elevation it should stay all snow and get around 2 feet shouldn't it?
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where is the one for Southern Nassau county and how much did they predict for there? Thanks
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December 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to bluewave's topic in New York City Metro
Don if we get 6 or more inches of snow from this storm doesn't that significantly increase the chances for a normal snowfall to even above normal snowfall winter? Also aren't the last 10 days of Dec looking much colder now with more chances of snowfall? -
December 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to bluewave's topic in New York City Metro
the biggest presolstice snowstorms were in 1948 and 1960 in the 15-16 range, interesting. Dec 2003 is right up there too and almost made it to 20 on Long Island -
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