LibertyBell

aren't we in a long term multidecadal -PDO/-PNA pattern? I remember the people in the West being really excited because of this. Tacoman in Albuquerque sure loves it lol.

Is that why, in a previous era, Baltimore and DC used to get big snow storms in patterns like these? I distinctly remember several times during the 80s when they feasted while we were suppressed. A notable example is winter 89-90....especially December!

I like astronomical winters over meteorological ones. Astronomers are real scientists who make real predictions that actually are correct most of the time lol. Winter ends at the spring equinox not on a day at the end of a month, which is just a matter of calendar convenience.

this fits in with the pattern of all or nothing winters which started in 2015-16

It depends. I thought the April 1996 and April 2003 snowstorms were a fitting end to amazing winters. Both were really good snowstorms on Long Island. So was the one we had a few years ago after a historic March. April 2018.

how did you feel about the October snowstorm lol

I'd rather have 60s and sunny right now.

But statistics shows us that there is such a large variation there is no such thing as a "mean" Average snowfall years are actually the rarest. I'm actually hoping we are on the final downward spiral that gets the average person to finally recognize the dangers of climate change. A sad commentary is that awful things (like the pandemic) need to happen to get the average person to actually care. So if we dont get big snowfalls anymore, that may be a good thing in the long run.

But if it's all you know you get used to it. Also 1979-1993 had a historic snow drought that had never happened before. By the way climate change was integral in the 2002/03-2015/16 winter patterns too, if you look at how warming SST drive quickly intensifying storms. We've seen an increase in big rainfall events as well as big snowfall events.

I have seen something amazing like this in a nature documentary. It was a male bonobo who adopted a baby whose mother had died. He took the baby up into a tree with him and when the baby fell asleep the older bonobo stayed awake looking at the stars and watching over his now adopted son. From everything I've seen, animals have amazingly complex and evolved emotions, some even moreso than many humans. Another one that I saw was the matriarch of an elephant family burying her dead and returning to the spot year after year and pausing there as if lost in thought.

But for temperatures, especially in the post 1990 era, that either combo more likely than not results in above normal temps, Chris. Snowstorms have somewhat of a luck factor especially for us near the coast. Also how long is this -PNA forecast to last? What's causing the changes in the February projections?

if it isn't going to snow 50 and sunny would be a lot better.

that almost sounds like the SWFE we got in Feb 2008, changed to drizzle at the end after a 6-8 inch thump of snow.

dont need "arctic air" anyway dude, you just need air cold enough to produce snow.

You mean like the one we got in late Feb 2008? That was 6-8 inches......

With regards to temps though is the NE the fastest warming part of the country, Chris? Also, which year holds the top spot as the warmest- I've seen varying reports that it's either 2016 or 2020- why the discrepancy?

if you want to start increasing snowfall here just build an artificial lake N or NW of our area and relocate those pesky neighbors who live there.

I have something for you to read, my friend, and I believe you will enjoy it (ps the formation of the universe is thought to have been a reversal of entropy starting on a very small scale inside a larger universe): https://www.physics.princeton.edu//ph115/LQ.pdf The Last Question By Isaac Asimov This is by far my favorite story of all those I have written. After all, I undertook to tell several trillion years of human history in the space of a short story and I leave it to you as to how well I succeeded. I also undertook another task, but I won't tell you what that was lest l spoil the story for you. It is a curious fact that innumerable readers have asked me if I wrote this story. They seem never to remember the title of the story or (for sure) the author, except for the vague thought it might be me. But, of course, they never forget the story itself especially the ending. The idea seems to drown out everything -- and I'm satisfied that it should.

https://www.zmescience.com/science/coronavirus-crisis-accelerating-renewables-01052020/ some good news for a change https://www.zmescience.com/science/renewables-solar-energy-21102019/

Yep, this is called entropy and it applies all over the universe.

If you go by 2020 alone, according to the latest numbers, we've had 22 billion dollar storms that have cost us 95 billion dollars in total. It's the most number of billion dollar storms we've had and that's been on a rapid increase for the past 20 years or so.

It's interesting that the snowy pattern in the Mountainous West, which began early on in the fall looks to repeat itself. This has been the region most resistant to long-term warning (on our continent anyway.) On the other hand, if you look at a place like Chicago, which has had a pitiful winter, that looks like it will continue.

Sea effect snowfall is increasing for the same reason that lake effect snows are on a rapid increase....because of warmer waters fueling more moisture to precipitate.

You made up for it in March 2001 lol. The big busts down here were April 1997 (8-16 predicted, got 1-3), March 2001 (2 - 3 ft predicted and got 3-5 inches on the back end), January 2008 (last heavy snow warning event, it mostly rained with a few flakes mixed in) and some also consider January 2015 a bust since 2-3 feet were predicted and except for eastern LI, the rest of us were a foot or less.

Chicago hasn't had much of a winter, and I have extreme doubts this is going to radically change. It looks like Minnesota and points north and west of that are the places to be. The mountainous west, notably, has been the most resistant to the warming climate signal.