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2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
He would want rain to Greenland if this was the Greenland subforum lol -
Extended summer stormlover74 future snow hole banter thread 23
LibertyBell replied to BxEngine's topic in New York City Metro
too bad they were too little to remember 2009-10 and 2010-11 2010-11 honestly was our best winter since 1995-96. I've not seen actual snow cover that high before or since. Snowstorm on top of snowstorm on top of snowstorm. -
add 1997-98, 2001-02 and a few others to this list too.
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Extended summer stormlover74 future snow hole banter thread 23
LibertyBell replied to BxEngine's topic in New York City Metro
Wow I wrote a short story called The Last Snow back in February 1989 as a sophomore in high school when yet another busted call for 6-8 inches turned into virga. It was a story set in the future about a group of storm chasers celebrating the last snowstorm that the Planet Earth would ever see. -
Extended summer stormlover74 future snow hole banter thread 23
LibertyBell replied to BxEngine's topic in New York City Metro
They brought in January 1961 into this too? LMAO Why not February 1961? January 1961 was the least of the three big storms that winter. -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
You know this is why I prefer vertically stacked lows that move very slowly or even loop, because the 700/850 lows are right where the surface low is. Less chance of mixing or changing over. -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
I guess it depends. For some people seeing a simulation of snow on a map is almost as good as the real thing, so when it doesn't happen it doesn't matter because in their minds they've already received the high they get from tracking it. So in a way it's already happened for them. And who knows, maybe in an alternate earth in another universe it actually did happen.... -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
cool, let's have an early summer then wait, did I say cool.... I meant HOT -
Was the same the case in 1955-56 (that winter gets compared to it).
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Yes, you know my favorite enso phase is a la nina after an el nino, those are great for hot and dry summers and snowy winters. I'm hoping for this combo after this fiasco of a winter.
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But you can take out the SSW part and just say we need the Pacific to cooperate and it's cold enough. This would work with or without the SSW, so maybe the SSW isn't important at all?
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We also had the nice St Paddys Day storm in 07.... my doors were stuck shut lol
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Best ice storm since 1994. I would also argue that 14-15 was another season where we started out bad and ended up with a very good season. 1977-78 too but that one is held sacred lol
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2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
Yes, I've found that as long as it doesn't change over or mix (much), JFK does better because it's close to the ocean. Was February 1961 also one of these cases-- did JFK have more moisture than NYC in this one too, Don? -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
Maybe undermeasured at Central Park, like perhaps February 1961 also was. -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
I wonder if some of those 60s storms were undermeasured at Central Park because there's a few of them that had more snow at JFK. Besides the Lindsey storm (which also dropped 20" at LGA), there was also the February 1961 blockbluster which dropped 24.1" of snow at JFK (even though it mixed over at times!) That was the biggest snow storm at JFK until PD2, which was then exceeded by January 2016. -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
Wow, I thought it might be more like a lesser version of April 2, 2018 The Lindsey storm was an HECS lol. Why do we make these models available to the general public? -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
Happening at the right time of day and preferably night will also help. -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
It's good to see both the GFS and Euro show a south of benchmark track, however we will need some cold air, because a good track with not enough cold air is just cold rain or a cold rain changing to snow showers at the end. -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
I like that we use only 0z and 12z model runs for this and the amounts seem to be going up, slightly.... I like a forecast of 2-3 for now. -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
I think we should be happy if we get 2-3 from this storm. 3-5 is still possible but unlikely near the coast. I just don't understand the forecasts saying zero accumulation for the coast. -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
Is the real issue not having enough - NAO blocking? I noticed that even when the AO is negative, the NAO doesn't seem to turn negative anymore. -
What the lack of blocking does is keep the rain/snow line close, which is why there were so many mixing events in 1993-94 and a few in 2013-14 too.
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1965-66 one snowstorm winter (and we were on the edge of that snowstorm, look at snowfall totals for DC and Norfolk, VA lol) 1987-88 one snowstorm winter, it was one of the best snowstorms between 1983 and 1993, we barely missed getting into double digits with a 9 plus inch snowstorm in January, it was the second consecutive year we got a 9 plus inch snowstorm in January (January 1987 was the other one.) The next time we received a 9 inch snowstorm was in the 1990-91 winter (the famous 36 hour wet snowstorm in February) we discussed before, which also had two 5 plus inch events.
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The middle three years were really awful, the first year wasn't that good either, it was just one storm, and we were on the edge of it lol. Look up the snowfall totals of 1965-66 for DC and Norfolk, Virgina. And that was a strong el nino and has been used as an analog for this season. The following year we were at cold neutral close to weak la nina and look how great 1966-67 was for snowfall. So maybe next season we'll finally get a good season. I'm not expecting 1995-96 or 2010-11 type la nina after el nino, but hopefully we'll get closer to average snowfall next season.
