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So it looks like January 1977 is the only one where JFK really fits my requirement of a single digit high and below zero low.

I'm surprised JFK missed the record high of 62 by one degree from 1950 and yet Islip hit 65. We also got to 65 here in Nassau County....JFK must have had less sun than we did.

Thanks Chris! What are the records for the earliest the models have picked up on big noreasters? Would it be either February 1978 or March 1993 (or both)? I think they picked up on February 1983, January 1996 and PD2 early too, but we were in the suppression zone originally for those storms.

Thanks Don and did all three have lows of -1 or -2 at JFK?

Why can't we ever be flooded with COLD Pacific air lol. It seems to produce snow just fine in the West.....

Is Allsnow19 playing the role of Snowman19 this year lol?

anything that screws over the fossil fuel companies makes me happy

I love that! May we all get what we want in 2023. Lots of snow and everything else!

Change his name to Allsnowcancel until he does! And Happy New Years! This rainy New Years reminds me of an old Dan Fogelberg song about snow changing to rain.

Happy New Years everyone!

Well I would like that-- my mom's birthday was Sept 17 and mine was Sept 15, so I have a special connection to both numbers.

No not even close, my record is 15!

I wouldn't even look at anything beyond 10 days....and we have to use the dreaded analogs if we want to get into any discussions of what might happen beyond that.

Interesting that the mountains of Northern New England are warming a lot faster than the Rocky Mountains (though they are warming too, and now forest fires are happening there in Colorado)

I think we have to stick around for a few more decades to remind people this actually happened in the 80s lol. If people just look at snowfall, the 80s weren't all that good but there were several interesting weather events and extremes back then that just don't look very likely anymore. April blizzard? Below zero on Christmas morning? I don't see that happening again in our lifetimes.

Thanks Don, did JFK also have single digit highs and below zero lows on these dates (or in 1977)? I lived in Park Slope, Brooklyn in the 70s and early 80s up until November 1982 (I saw the April 1982 blizzard there!) and we moved to Long Island's south shore after that so I saw February 1983 there. Normally I use NYC as my "location" up through Veteran's Day 1982 (the day we moved) and JFK after that. JFK got over 20" in February 1983 (I think-- they always do better in strong el nino snowstorms-- same thing happened in PD2 and January 2016!) so that works for me!

Thanks nice memories-- it was like a dusting here if I remember correctly. The 80s definitely had mostly thread the needle and wasted cold was so common back then, looks like we might be back to that kind of pattern. If that's true we should be happy with getting to around 2 feet of snowfall every year.

Thanks for the stroll down memory lane. It was about 6 inches here....I guess the rates are what kept it mostly snow here (changed to drizzle right at the end) and some of the heaviest daytime snow I saw that year-- which is saying a lot lol.

He was reading this thread tonight. Happy New Years!

1966-67 is listed among my favorite types of winters and years and why sometimes very snowy winters follow very hot summers....when an el nino is ending (which happened early in 1966) there is a heat release and that resulted in the very wonderfully hot and dry summer of 1966, which was followed by a pseudo la nina the next winter..... so the combo of the ending el nino's STJ jet combined with the arctic shots that come from a la nina (it wasn't officially, but neutral is good enough for me) gave us the amazing winter we had that year. It bears a lot of similarities to 1995-96....when we had the mild January after the blizzard and then a roaring return to winter in February and March. And that was also a very hot summer followed by a very snowy winter and also an el nino followed by a la nina....and it happened again in 2010-11 (very hot and dry summer followed by a snowy winter because of an el nino followed by a la nina)!

Is an exorcism required?

Like backloaded storms lol

They were here for awhile

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