LibertyBell

This is what we saw (on a much larger scale) on 2/6/2010, which is why I asked if all that snow in the Poconos would make it here because it looks like the dry air is coming from the east and northeast.

the sun is shining from behind the clouds, I hope it gets darker again in an hour or two.

JM I can actually physically see the sun now shining through the clouds, look to the east lol

the sky has brightened up a lot about 3 miles north of you lol

Walt, is there a chance it will dry up as it comes east? There is more confluence the further east you go, no?

It would be funny/ironic if there were two areas of snowfall, one farther north in the LHV and the other one with the IVT, with little or nothing in between. Right now, it looks like the sun wants to come out on the south shore of Long Island lol.

Don there's still a chance we could all see less than an inch from this lol. Except for central and south NJ of course.

I'm still wondering if NYC will get 0.5" I could see us all with less than an inch in this. We've all seen virga storms before.

Oh so this is how they pick these names! Color me shocked lol

a few flakes here and there if you squint really hard

But we have already have a term for ice/freezing rain-- "ice storm warning" and sleet is measured as snow and besides that the sole measuring criteria to achieve "winter storm warning" is snowfall, that's why I thought it would be better to have a "snowstorm warning" Maybe a "snowstorm warning" should be a separate criteria from "winter storm warning"-- like we had a "heavy snow warning" in the old days-- 6" is too low of a criteria for the maximum level of warning anyway, we should have a higher one for double digit snowfalls and bring back the "heavy snow warning" If I remember correctly the old criteria for achieving a "heavy snow warning" was 10" of snow in 12 hours and 20" of snow in 24 hours?

"Winter storm" Heather is here! no one remembers these names the day after they are named, there's no real purpose to them

and why the news is so depressing lol

Something else I've noticed is that the phrase "snow storm" has been replaced by "winter storm" -- WHY? And why is it still called a "winter storm" if it happens in the fall or spring? This opens up a whole new can of words-- I believe the phrase "winter storm warning" should be replaced with "snow storm warning"-- we already have an "ice storm warning" for freezing rain and sleet is measured as snow, so there is no real reason to use the phrase "winter storm warning" especially when the measuring criteria for that is the amount of snow that falls. I would get rid of the term "winter storm" completely-- we should be precise in our wording, for a snow event it should be "snow storm" not "winter storm."

Nothing here on the south shore but the occasional flake and I had to squint really hard to even see those.

Incidentally we had this in January 1994, in between all the ice and nice snowstorms we had a storm where it was 0 degrees for the low in NYC and it hit 32 by midnight (from 0F to 0C on the same calendar day lol) and it was rain and 58 degrees the next day on roaring SE winds of 60 mph lol. That was our second zero or subzero Arctic blast that month.

There was a storm that dumped snow in DC in December and it was rain up here lol. It was forecasted to be 6-8 inches of snow but the secondary developed too close to the coast and it changed to rain and thunderstorms as soon as the snow started. This was in the middle of that historically cold December. We got a bust in the opposite direction the previous February (in 1989) when it was forecast to be 6-8 inches of snow and all we got was virga and 0 snowfall while Atlantic City got nearly 20 inches. That was another huge waste of cold air; it was overcast all day and looked like it could snow any second and come down hard, but nothing at all fell from the skies. So in 1988-89 ACY definitely beat NYC for snowfall and in 1989-90 DC beat NYC for snowfall.

it would only be mentioned on the weathercast. and the weathercast was only done at the end of the newscast.... have you noticed the weather gets mentioned every 10-15 minutes now on the news even if it's sunny and mild?

Don, will NYC remain below last season's historic snowfall total even after this storm? What's the most snow we can get from this storm and still remain below last season's total?

I'd love to see the liquid equivalence, it could be something like 50:1 lol

89-90 too, if you want to look for bad winters where DC did better. 65-66 which some used as an analog had 40" down by Norfolk VA while NYC saw half of that

It's interesting that 3-4" is still forecast up by Mt Pocono, it will probably match the last storm in snowfall amounts.

Maybe it's time to have a lower level of alert, let's call it "State of Preparedness"

They really should only issue it for south jersey if anywhere, but the whole idea of "state of emergency" should only be issued for something like Sandy. Maybe they need to have a lower level of alert? Did they ever think of that? And they could call it "State of Preparedness". Leave the "State of Emergency" only for historic and truly life threatening conditions.

less toxic chemicals in our bodies too. Tech is finally making it down from NASA onto the level of mainstream users now.