LibertyBell

ufos...or uaps....

Fascinating-- I wonder how much snow truly fell in the March 1888 blizzard? And a few of our other great snowstorms..... December 1947.....(previous record holder) February 1978 April 1982 February 1983 January 1996

It's crazy how many of these are 1800s winters. How do we expand the dataset to include years prior to 1870? There has to be a way to access average temperatures going back to the early 1800s and even before?

Right and note how much colder 1918 was.....the only recent cold la ninas I remember all occurred after el ninos, like 1995-96 and 2010-11. Also note that 1916-17 and 1917-18 were back to back 50"+ snowfall winters, something that did not get repeated until 2013-14 and 2014-15.

Don I think we'll get 3 50+ degree days in a row-- Saturday, Sunday and Monday and will likely edge out 1932 for the warmest January on record. I'm encouraged seeing the cold being delayed too to Feb 1, we should not see another freezing or below low in January and should set that new record too, at 3, edging out 1932 once again.

Northern stream should be doing its job and bringing in cold air while the southern stream brings in the moisture. That's how it normally works, and there is nothing normal about this pattern.

Pattern recognition is amazing and we love all different kinds of it, doesn't need to be mathematical. There are other kinds of patterns too.

North America is a weak ass "continent" Asia is much larger therefore can much better contain cold air. Actually it's a supercontinent because Europe and Asia are part of one large landmass (so is Africa actually.)

But you just know all the denialists will point to no human made climate change because of that January 1932 record, that's why it needs to be taken down.

2023 pulls ahead of 1932!

I just don't want fake Jan 31st tainting the January record

Any idea why this happened, Chris? Was this similar to the pattern in Jan 1932?

Hopefully this record doesn't tainted on the last day either.

Looking at the seven day forecasts they have temps dropping off a cliff on Tuesday into the 30s for highs, I hope that waits a day I dont want the January avg temps to be tainted on the last day (it should be a 30 day month anyway).

How much did you get? I saw that you wrote cartopped? I dont believe that 3-6 is from one event, just the overall snowcover on the ground there right now.

That's a relief....I hope he's okay. His vacation is well timed since there's nothing really been going on this winter lol. I saw his last post from August and I thought that's what it was too. I hope he comes back when things get interesting.

Yeah and the snowfall average thing is a bit complicated because many more of our events are snow to rain DC is usually either all snow or all rain (and being an inland location sometimes they get snow while we get rain lol) It was even worse in the 80s when the storm tracks were more suppressed and it was a lot colder....DC beat NYC in half the winters for snowfall.

Thanks Don, would you say the warm up begins around the 8th or later in the second week around the 10th?

so the warmup should commence around Feb 8th and last until the 21st Don?

and they weren't even allowing for compaction in the first 5 decades or so of the snowfall record when it was over 30"

Was the map I saw posted for the southern Poconos correct? It said there was 3-6 inches of snow on the ground up near Albrightsville and Lake Harmony?

NYC is badly placed for west to east and southwest to northeast storm tracks. And having the ocean to your south makes it even worse.

Growing up in the 90s and setting those extreme heat records then and taking pictures of my thermometer when it hit triple digits, it was quite an accomplishment on the south shore. Pretty much the only kind of weather history we made here until 95-96 came along.

I think we can make it to 1....we just don't want the last day of the month to mess it up-- hence why I said January and March should both have 30 days and give those 2 days to February to balance out the calendar better. The high was in the mid 50s both yesterday and today and looks like the weekend could be in the 50s too.

There's two predominant storm tracks, one goes to the north of us and the other to the south of us. NYC is in a bad place for west to east type tracks (or even southwest to southeast tracks unless they slope just right), we need coastals that are offshore-- but not too offshore. Which means we need phasing. But not too much phasing too early.... So NYC is much more thread the needle than other places, both north and south of us even in a "good" pattern. It's why places both south and north of us often do better with snow....and also the fact that the ocean is to the south which is much worse than having it to your east (also bad for summer heat, which I love.)