LibertyBell

There was a storm that dumped snow in DC in December and it was rain up here lol. It was forecasted to be 6-8 inches of snow but the secondary developed too close to the coast and it changed to rain and thunderstorms as soon as the snow started. This was in the middle of that historically cold December. We got a bust in the opposite direction the previous February (in 1989) when it was forecast to be 6-8 inches of snow and all we got was virga and 0 snowfall while Atlantic City got nearly 20 inches. That was another huge waste of cold air; it was overcast all day and looked like it could snow any second and come down hard, but nothing at all fell from the skies. So in 1988-89 ACY definitely beat NYC for snowfall and in 1989-90 DC beat NYC for snowfall.

it would only be mentioned on the weathercast. and the weathercast was only done at the end of the newscast.... have you noticed the weather gets mentioned every 10-15 minutes now on the news even if it's sunny and mild?

Don, will NYC remain below last season's historic snowfall total even after this storm? What's the most snow we can get from this storm and still remain below last season's total?

I'd love to see the liquid equivalence, it could be something like 50:1 lol

89-90 too, if you want to look for bad winters where DC did better. 65-66 which some used as an analog had 40" down by Norfolk VA while NYC saw half of that

It's interesting that 3-4" is still forecast up by Mt Pocono, it will probably match the last storm in snowfall amounts.

Maybe it's time to have a lower level of alert, let's call it "State of Preparedness"

They really should only issue it for south jersey if anywhere, but the whole idea of "state of emergency" should only be issued for something like Sandy. Maybe they need to have a lower level of alert? Did they ever think of that? And they could call it "State of Preparedness". Leave the "State of Emergency" only for historic and truly life threatening conditions.

less toxic chemicals in our bodies too. Tech is finally making it down from NASA onto the level of mainstream users now.

it's also a weak storm with a very narrow area of precip correct? A more normal sized storm would easily get heavy snow into our area on that track

where does that strong SE ridge go in times like this lol

Yup, lots of problems on the roads. 6.5" I think.... the earliest 6" storm there on record I believe (here we had 8" on November 7, 2012 a week after Sandy, and 14" in Freehold.)

Wasn't that the storm that was supposed to change to rain but never did?

What a waste of cold air and moisture lol, the GFS kept saying we would get more than that-- meanwhile Toms River (50 miles south of here) got 2 feet of snow.

Yep and you know what else we can do-- stop using pesticides. We have the tech right now to use drones with onboard lasers to kill weeds without harming any other form of life at all. They're already started to deploy them but it should be happening more quickly.

we could still get what we got in that storm (and that was also a daytime storm). we got 1.5" on 2/6/2010 so that's possible again today Staten Island (at least the southern part of it) got up to 6" while NYC only saw a trace lol.

I can't wait until AI is running the entire planet and silly human politics no longer exists.

I'd love to see OES on the south shore of LI, it's only happened a few times in my life. We had 1.5" on 2/6/2010.

If by mini you mean less than 25% of that, then sure

this is awesome, I wish we had these back in the 80s when we had 1-3 inches of snow without any winds

why is NJ so damn long? Sometimes I wish Long Island was east of Atlantic City lol, especially with storms like this.

I'm very close to the Brown 80% area, maybe just a few miles northeast of there lol, so let's say, 78% zone? I guess 2" is a good number for me also.

If El Nino's are supposed to be mild in December, what differentiates the exceptions like 2002-03 and 2009-10 which were quite wintry in December? Is it just about the Atlantic side blocking? If so, why do we consider el nino more important? We can eliminate the influence of el nino (outside of the stronger subtropical jet) and solely focus on Atlantic side blocking as the major component in colder weather, at least for us.

Lol and here the media is (specifically Lee Goldberg) saying we return to winter and cold weather by early February. Are we looking at sunny and mild? That's not bad at all-- ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN RAIN!

But thats happening anyway and the resulting sea level rise will be horrific I like the idea of creating a pump to constantly mix up the water, but the environmental issues (effect on sea life) that would cause probably wouldn't be good either.