LibertyBell

The trick for us to stay all snow on HECS is for the storm to make a sharp east turn once it reaches the latitude of ACY. If it gets any farther north it usually mixes or changes over.

wow and that was supposed to be one of our most extensive heavy snow events. January 2016 didn't either Don?

Hi, on your site, I saw your precise map of the 2015-16 season (one spot of 50" snowfall near Hicksville, NY), do you also have a map of the historic January 2016 blizzard? I want to see how extensive the 30"+ amounts were, I know they went from Allentown to Morristown to Somerville to Jackson Heights to JFK to Oceanside to Hicksville. But I've never seen a graphical hires representation of it.

24 hour duration is long enough

Thanks, my thinking is along the same lines. And this is probably why la ninas after el ninos have been very snowy here. 1995-96 and 2010-11 are two other examples.

ah, and 1993-94 is another example. it's probably why la ninas after el ninos are so snowy too.

Yes April 2003 being a case in point about heavy rates overcoming the lateness of the season. Lesser storms would barely accumulate during the day late in the season.

February 1983 and February 1989 are both on this list, Don?

the low pressure only has to make it to the latitude of ACY before it gets shoved due east, a lot of our HECS only made it as far north as ACY.

The sun is awesome though, it makes everything much brighter. If it was sunny and cold it wouldn't melt quickly though, it's the higher dewpoints that are the problem.

Probably, but I would add other parts of the city into the equation too, since New York City isn't a single point and covers 5 boroughs. From living in Brooklyn and Nassau County and going to college in Queens, JFK is very representative of most of Brooklyn and Queens at least up to Jamaica. There's a large number of people who live in this area. Perhaps Central Park holds onto snow better, but I can certify that Manhattan as a whole most definitely does not-- I've witnessed many a 6 inch snowfall where Manhattan had barely any snow to be found. Particularly late season snowfalls. I've seen many snowfalls where the south shore held onto snowfall much better than urbanized Manhattan does. March 2001 (bust though it was) and April 1996 and April 2003 are cases in point. I've never been to Central Park (nor do I ever have a desire to go there-- I consider parks to be artificial environments like zoos and if I want to see nature I go to the Poconos or elsewhere where there are real woods.)

Highs: EWR: 65 (1957) NYC: 64 (1951) LGA: 65 (1951) JFK: 56 (2023) Lows: EWR: 4 (1979) NYC: -1 (1914) LGA: 8 (2016) JFK: 0 (1967) Historical: 1784 - Ice floes blocked the Mississippi River at New Orleans, then passed into the Gulf of Mexico. The only other time this occurred was during the "Great Arctic Outbreak" of 1899. (David Ludlum) 1885 - The "Friday the 13th" avalanche at Alva, UT, killed sixteen persons, and left thirteen others buried for twelve hours before being rescued. (David Ludlum) 1889 - It was the coldest morning of record along the Gulf Coast. The temperature dipped to 7 above zero at New Orleans LA and Pensacola FL, and plunged to -1 degree at Mobile AL. The mercury dipped to -2 degrees at Tallahassee, the coldest reading of record for the state of Florida. (David Ludlum) Tony, that last historical arctic outbreak was in 1899, not 1889 right? Also, tomorrow, Valentines Day, is the 9 year anniversary of the last time NYC went below zero!

wow, whats the closest location to the city or island that had measurable snowfall in May 2020?

This has been my thinking for a decade I think we had a conversation about it on the old forum. Evolution paves the way for the destruction of the evolving species, devolution as you say (and as I wrote back then.) Humanity actually peaked in intelligence about 3000 years ago according to a study I read. The Ancient Greeks, Egyptians, Sumerians, were far more capable of thinking on their feet than people in our society are and the scientific method and math they created form the basis of the society we have today. Have you ever read about the Antikythera device? It was the world's first ancient computer, made entirely of stone and able to predict eclipses and occultations years in advance. Created by the great Archimedes.

Yes I marvel at the genius of people like Nikola Tesla, who despite his OCD and somewhat magical thinking, was way way ahead of time and the father of modern electrical engineering.

what made 1960-61 so historically snowy? I feel like we ignore neutral years.....1966-67 was another historically snowy season that was neutral from that same decade.

and ended quite ominously with the March 2001 bust....

Then this might come down to education, has our education system failed us or have we failed it? We have been weakening our social safety nets and educational programs for the last few decades.

they'll bring up Florida and the Gulf Coast. but but..... look what just happened in the Deep South this season!!

it's his reaction to all the manic posts about snowfall, model runs, opining about the long range, medium range, short range, etc.

oh yes, but even that was a bit of a disappointment west of Suffolk County. I remember seeing forecast maps and predictions of 20-30 and the first half of the storm was rain, we still ended up with a decent 10-12 inches but areas to our north and east got 30+.

Don't forget New Orleans too lol

I'm trying to think of winters where we had many close calls and then finally got hit by a big one at the end of the season. I can't think of any right now.

I'm kind of shocked Mt Pocono only has 3.9 inches of snow this month, Walt!

There are winters where a storm like this would inevitably come north.....