Daniel Boone

Another thing to note about '95-96 is there was a warmup after the aforementioned Snowstorm in December. It ended right before Christmas and Rain changed to Snow here in the early morning hours of Christmas and we had an inch of Snow at 7 A.M. One other thing about that Winter; it did have an extreme Arctic Outbreak. February 3rd and 4th Heavy Snow fell dropping 10-24 inches in the mid and upper great Valley. the front passed and the Temp fell to -21 feb 5 with the high of -4 in Pennington gap.

That One was a SE traveling System that bottomed in the mid South and intensified and moved ENE South of us . I measured 7 inches in Pennington gap. Roanoke got 10". It was evening of the 9th and morning of 10th.

I remember it having systems travel from the Pac NW down through the Plains into the Tn Valley along the Jet. Some would drop to the mid South and form a Miller A from a Miller B( transfer). Those were the Ones that would cut up the Coast from NC on up(Noreaster). Several low riding B and Clipper Systems as well. I was thinking awhile ago after reading Johns post and pondered that really all we need is this Pattern with the Trough dipped further South a 25-100 Miles. Then we'd be in the area getting the Snow that Area's that distance up are getting. So close. A stronger block would do it. Taller western Ridge would.

I don't blame you. At this point, how can you believe it after what happened Friday and also today's milder outcome. To add insult to injury, several inches expected at Virginia Beach and down the NE Nc Beach area.

51 degree's here ! I almost pulled the trigger yesterday saying I wouldn't be surprised if we hit 50. The Great Valley warm nose, lol.

Yep. Snow on snow up that way.

HRRR showing similar outcome with this System coming up Tomorrow night as the past one. Rich get Richer if is right as showing this Evening. Hopefully it's wrong. If not, more cold rain with a little sleet and snow mixed in for area's south of Wise and Lebanon ending as Snow. Wouldn't surprise me at all.

If right, the rich get richer. Sad.

The GFS may score here as the same thing as far as mosisture is concerned may do as last System. It kinda looks like an anafrontal wave deal or Lee Low Snow Print.

Yes, that's another reason that makes sense. I was actually wondering earlier today if the wind shifted to the NW that even without a frontal passage our Temp would fall due to upstream snowcover.

I guess I still go by 1980 to 2010 Averages more. The Avgerages have really jumped over the year's and the thing is that's not always caught is the last sevral Year's that jump is added on in the NWS Station Avgs. The Avg high for Pennington gap this Date was 47 Hi 27 low in 2010 I think. So, average is running below that for the balance but not extreme( however, I think that has gone up some now). KTRI now says the Average high there is like 51 or so Low 31 I think. That's several degrees milder than used to be for there. So, with "Today's" Averages we're running a good bit below. the point basically being the difference in comparison to our west and East. There is a Spike through here of not of below as the aforementioned. I think John actually hit it with the western Ridge Height as far as the point being addressed. I see your reasoning though as the cold we have got has been constant. Of which is a rarity, especially this early.

So far the truly cold air hasn't been making it into the Great Valley this Month. You can see how it fell down west and East of the Great Valley in the Month T Plot. It's in the 40's Today. That falls within Average for here. This Mornings Low was above Average due to being socked in with Fog and low St Deck. Yesterday was near Normal as far as daily goes. The point being, although much of the East( MW, Oh Valley, NE and MA have been very cold, our Area and Southeastward hasn't in comparison. Qustion to debate is, the Reason why?. I'd like to see what everyone can come up with and get a common denominator . Mine is no strong Hp press down western slopes of Apps. Then there has been the residual heat Sourh of us left over from the Cuban HP that weakened and moved on SEward that pulls up toward the Jet and mixes. If Modeling is correct showing the strong HP coming down from Canada into the Plains we will be in the Icebox as well as we all know.

Congratulations !

NBM

Congratulations!!!

I do wish we had a bit more cold in Place. If a Lee side develops that won't be a problem. In 95-96 we had snow producing waves akin to last night but with well established Cold in place. We had several Miller B to Miller A Transfer's . Couple of those were big Dogs that went on to be powerful Noreasters. There were a couple decent Clippers as well. I will say, imo we're on track to have a great Winter Snow wise . The Cuban heat HP that had the deep SE flooded with very warm Temps and aided the mild upper Layers of our area to be as mild as they have has weakened and shifted SE.

Yeah, this one may have Legs for us providing the Jet doesn't shift north any. Incidentally, our first major Snowfall of '95-96 was on the 10th. I measured 7" in Pennington gap.

One more great one !

There's a Couple of Duds in there('16-17, 22-23) as well as a couple of near Normal One's('96-97, 12-13, 08-09) along with a Couple great Winter's ('95-96, 10-11) '21-22 was a good Winter along the Cumberlands and western locations but not area wide . I bet they just did the last 30 Year's with these.

After the shafting we Tennessee Valley Folks got from this one hopefully we get lucky with the other's up the pipeline. I had a light dusting from this one. Blacksburg about 5". Even Danville at about 800ft elevation in South Central VA near the NC Line has 3" and still snowing.

Pretty thick above freezing air aloft. It's been rain and sleet here. Finally got a few Flakes mixed in now. All Snow just 10 statute Miles North of my Location ( Jonesville Va). Wise has heavy snow currently.

Exactly! We've received 0.18 in rhe gauge so far mainly rain and sleet. There's some wet Flakes mixed in now. Temp. 33.2

Area's east of the Appalachian Spine have very low DP'S. Definitely going to help them get all Snow all the way down to possibly Winston Salem NC. Too bad we were stuck with high DP's . Would of made a difference irt cooling. That or just have been 2-3 degrees colder at all levels than it is. So close but yet so far.

Everything appears to be a bit North of what guidance had been indicating. SEKY across Wise County should do decent Snow wise.

Light rain and sleet here now. I was a bit concerned as the Temp was running a bit high here and Dews were above Freezing. Would have been better to of had a drier airmass at lower level during onset. Current Temp is 35.7 with 33 Dp. Wise is currently 30 last report.