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Confirmed large and dangerous tornado near willow grove
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Steady rain for the last hour. About .5" in addition to the .5" this morning brings us up to an inch. We ll see if that heavy stuff works it's way east or just trains to the west.
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Learn to read and stop misquoting me, it is beyond childish. Are you 12?
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No offense, but can you read? Please quote me where I said it has diminished for all of SE PA? I specifically said the 95 corridor. 1-2" of rain over 3 hours isn't going to cause widespread flash flooding. I posted the HREF maps above, the heaviest rates at 1 hour, 3 hours, and 6 hours are all N and W of the 95 corridor.
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Considering Scranton is already closing in on 2", it's pretty safe to say it's going to bust low up there.
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who knows, maybe the RGEM scores a coup, but I trust the HREF over any single mesoscale model.
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This is the highest 1 hr rates on the HREF as well: heaviest rates up into upper bucks and lehigh valley
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Latest HREF also following other guidance showing the heaviest rates will be N and W of 95. The flash flooding threat has significantly decreased this morning for the 95 corridor.
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HREF tor threat is very impressive around 00z tonight. SE PA and central/south NJ have sig tor means between 3 and 4+. Very impressive for this area:
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I will add that the risk of Delaware River flooding has increased with this shift north. If large area's of NE PA and NW NJ receive 4-8" of rain, the river will most likely go above flood stage even if area's further south only see an inch of rain. Right now the forecast is only for the river to hit action stage but I don't think it was based on those area's further upstream receiving that much rain.
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Agreed, I think the high risk flood outlook needs to be shifted further N and W with their next update. Models are now converging that the bulk of the heaviest precip will be N and W of 95. The TOR threat has increased significantly though for the 95 area especially if we destabilize this afternoon. If the low does track as far N as the NAM/EURO project, we could have a repeat of the 7/28 tornado outbreak. Pretty impressive parameters depicted on the NAM.
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New 12z NAM is north like the euro. Only 1-1.5" for much of SE PA. 3Km NAM is even less than that. Tornado threat now looking like the more concerning issue for Philly and Burbs as opposed to flooding. N and W burbs get crushed though.
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I haven't seen the 06z euro but 00z is pretty much only 1-2" for much of SE PA. GFS is trending that way as well. We'll have to see how the day unfolds. Latest HRRR is still on track for 2-4" but SE PA stays dry until around 00z tonight then 2-4" falls in a 6 hour time period. At .5" for the event so far but rain has stopped and sun is even poking through the clouds at times.
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Looking at guidance, it seems se pa should be dry for the remainder of the day. Then we get a 6 hour blast of heavy rain sometime this evening as the low approaches. The further n and w guidance definitely seems to be verifying, heaviest amounts will be LV into the Poconos.
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The majority of those totals fall in like a span of 6 hours too. It's going to be fast and hard hitting.
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18z nam and GFS(along with the 12z euro) are very concerning in regard to river flooding. 4-6"+ in the headwaters of the Delaware and Schuylkill combined with 2-4" further south would be bad news for much of the area.
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So far with the 12z globals we have the GFS with the heaviest axis of rain N and W of 95, the CMC with the heaviest axis South and West of 95, and the UKMET with the heaviest axis right along 95(which also matches the NAM). It's summer's version of model roulette.
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Much like our area, they are also running 150% - 200% above normal precip this month so far.
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meso models are hinting at convection this evening bringing .5-1"+ in places. Not good, we need all the dry days we can get in the lead up to Ida's remnants.
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Yeah but the downside to that is almost all of the rain falls in like a 6-9 hour period. This is the latest nam and the vast majority of it falls in a 6 hour period.
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Interesting that WPC has the axis of heavy rain further south than Mt. Holly's briefing package. Regardless, 3-5" region wide is going to cause both flash flooding and river flooding with how wet August has been for most of the area. Most of the region is running 150% - 200%+ above normal for the month.
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I know you yinzers have trouble reading but there is a western pa forum FYI https://www.americanwx.com/bb/forum/10-upstate-new-yorkpennsylvania/
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Heavy rain threat looking like a big fail today/tonight. Yesterday's 30% chance was way more active compared to today's 60% chance with nothing on radar. Gonna need the break though as Ida's remnants look to bring a solid 2-4" mid week.
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After Henri's rain, now sitting at 7.2" on the month. 24.6" over the last 90 days. So much for the summer of drought some were calling for back in May.
