snowman19

The other side of the pole appears to be going into a positive feedback loop with the snow, ice and cold. They are wayyy above normal in cold, ice and snowcover there, which reinforces itself and creates massive surface high pressure over that area. It’s going to want to stay put. It will not be easy to dislodge that. If we go into January and are in the same boat, it will be a very bad sign. Pray something changes in a very big way over the next month

Was just about to post the CPC update, 3.4 and 3 have basically stagnated. OISST finally updated on Cyclonicwx, both CRW and OISST are at +2.0C in 3.4 as of yesterday. Got to wait and see what happens with the WWB once the MJO pushes into phase 7

Not a good sign when you are approaching mid-December and the snowcover on our side of the pole is this bad. Arctic sea ice is also below normal and all of the arctic cold is on the other side of the pole in Eurasia

It’s behaving like a “weak” El Niño though!!!

Like Don just pointed out, the 97-98 winter actually was not a torch, it was just a little too warm to snow because the Aleutian Low was displaced way east and the +EPO floodgates were wide open, PAC jet was raging for months. The AO/NAO were not horrible either. We were just inundated with Pacific maritime air. The MJO waves in phase 8 were of no help either

It looks like all El Niño standing wave convection running the show going into January after the MJO moves strongly into phase 7 then dissipates. This is typical of strong ENSO events once they take over the forcing….the MJO stays largely quiet

The MJO was actually in phase 8 back in January of 1998. It didn’t help

Several of us suspected this robust MJO was going to couple with the El Nino standing wave and slow down

As suspected, once the MJO gets into phase 7, it constructively interferes with the El Niño standing wave and slows down. Expect the associated WWB to also increase in strength as we get closer in time. This is almost certainly going to result in substantial warming of Nino regions 3 and 3.4 at the end of this month….it has a lot of warmth in the subsurface and OHC to work with…..

Eric Webb (love him or hate him) makes an interesting point, is AGW making the warmth even more dramatic?

This upcoming WWB and MJO constructive interference is going to have a boat load of subsurface/OHC warmth to work with. We may see very dramatic warming in both regions 3 and 3.4 at the end of this month

The overnight model runs have gotten even stronger with the PAC jet late month. This is pretty incredible

That signal for a raging, extended PAC jet come late December is crazy

Yes. I agree with you, I think the WWB ends up stronger than modeled and it warms 3.4 substantially by the end of December, but in the grand scheme of things, if I turn out to be right or Ray @40/70 Benchmark turns out to be right, it won’t make a damn bit of difference….a +1.9C trimonthly or a +2.1C/+2.2C trimonthly isn’t going to change the atmospheric response, it’s still going to be the exact same. We are talking about a difference of 0.3. Like @Bluewave said, Mother Nature isn’t going to say “let me respond completely differently to a +1.9C and a +2.2C”

Red flags all over the place for late month. If anyone believes that we are going into an arctic cold pattern by then with a look like that they are going to be in for a real huge surprise

Here comes the next period of WWBs and El Nino strengthening/warming:

It’s generally not a good sign for a cold pattern when all of the arctic air is on the other side of the pole in Eurasia, arctic sea ice is low and snowcover on our side of the hemisphere looks like this:

I didn’t doubt it. However, if the MJO behaves as expected this cooling will be short lived

Given the subsurface (from the recent major WWB/DWKW), surface, upcoming constructive interference from the MJO and what looks to be another very substantial WWB coming up, I really don’t think it’s that far fetched at all

@so_whats_happening @bluewaveHere’s the new Euro run, shows a super El Niño. VERY strong signal!

Looks like a very strong WWB coming up, this event has most definitely not peaked yet. Here is an interesting perspective @bluewave might find this interesting too: