snowman19
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I think you can definitely rule out a cutter with that block. An inland runner is a possibly though as is a coastal track and OTS but I think you can definitely eliminate a cutter option
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Jackpotted next Sunday! What could possibly go wrong??? [emoji23][emoji23]
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Based on the new model runs I believe there’s little if any snow south of I-84. It most likely starts as brief snow/sleet and goes to rain south of 84. The new runs have less than an inch of snow for Rockland
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None of the 0z models have more than an inch of snow even up here in Rockland, most have no snow at all. The midlevels are torched by the time the precip starts. It’s sleet to rain at best south of I-84
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Everyone discounting the GFS and throwing it out needs to remember it was the first one to show Friday/Saturday as being a non event. The Euro and CMC kept showing a snowstorm this weekend run after run. Not saying the GFS is going to be right, but I would not just toss it in the trash either
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Happy Met Spring everyone! [emoji854]
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If that’s really a trend and not more than noise from the 18z GFS, other models need to follow suit at 0z tonight
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Right, because you know there’s definitely going to be a massive, historic KU climbing the coast with 24”+ and -30F below normal highs. There are no definites in weather and for the most part, in life
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The thing is, people are looking at those maps and saying “oh my God it’s going to be -8 below normal!” But that’s -8 below normal for a normal high on March 12th, which is cold by 3/12 standards but we’re not talking 20’s for highs lol You have to temper expectations based on climo, we will be approaching mid-March at that point
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Best to keep expectations tempered for this reason
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Ratios are going to be around 8:1
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The models show 725-750mb getting torched very quickly. I can see more sleet than a big dump of snow at the onset, even north and west of NYC. Warm noses are always badly undermodeled at this range. Verbatim there would be fairly intense WAA at 725-750mb with the low level jet punching in
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It’s called being realistic, not negative. Is it going to get cold relative to March averages starting on 3/10 and beyond? Yes, if the models are correct. Is there going to be a parade of KU’s up the coast a la March, 2018? Incredibly doubtful
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Enjoy whatever you get tonight/tomorrow morning. Those hoping for a big winter comeback 3/10 through the end of the March are probably going to be very disappointed. March, 2018 isn’t walking through the door
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The CMC caved to the GFS
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If that starts getting delayed much beyond March 10th, start worrying
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I don’t know why anyone is using 10:1 ratio snow maps for this event. They are wayyyy overdone and inaccurate. And let’s see what the other models do at 12z and 0z. Is it the NAM being the NAM or the start of a trend?
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No, it’s really not. It’s consistently showing an inland runner setup, small movements run to run are noise
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The new RGEM is 2-4 area wide. Looks like this will be the 1st plowable snowfall in Sloatsburg since 3/12/22. Insane, almost an entire year without a plowable snow. https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=rdps&p=snku_acc-imp&rh=2023022606&fh=66&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=&pwplus=1
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The new NAM shows the risk for Mon/Tues….it absolutely torches the midlevels. Gives 1 inch total of snow even up here in Rockland. Yes, I know the NAM isn’t good but in the past, it has done a pretty good job of picking up on midlevel warming/warm tongues where no other model had it. Has this as a ping fest. https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=nam&p=snodpc_acc-imp&rh=2023022506&fh=84&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=&pwplus=1
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Either way, you are not getting 10:1 ratios on Monday, it’s going to be lower than that
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Levi Cowan did a write up on it a few years ago, but the UKMET 10:1 ratio snowmaps are badly overdone. They count sleet as snow
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We are not New England. Post 3/15 becomes very difficult to sustain cold and snow at this latitude minus freak, anomalous events. Climo, sun angle and length of day are all working against you big time by then. By the end of March, you have an August sun overhead
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Are we talking “cold” relative to mid-late March climo standards?
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Given that primary, parent low cutting into the lakes and the still absolutely horrible PAC at the time I would not at all be surprised if the primary holds on longer than what is currently being modeled and 2/28 turns into a mainly rain event south of I-84. If those mid level low tracks are correct, the mid level torch is being grossly underestimated by the models right now, which is typical at this range. This could easily turn into a SWFE by the end of the weekend
