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Impressive 72 gust at JFK METAR KJFK 170451Z 25036G63KT 1/4SM R04R/P6000FT RA BR SQ BKN004 OVC018 08/07 A2936 RMK AO2 PK WND 22063/0444 SFC VIS 6 RAE02B35 PRESRR SLP942 P0000 T00830072 401110072
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i just saw that, wow impressive sustained too. Definitely feels like there should be a HWW up and not advisories. METAR KJFK 170451Z 25036G63KT 1/4SM R04R/P6000FT RA BR SQ BKN004 OVC018 08/07 A2936 RMK AO2 PK WND 22063/0444 SFC VIS 6 RAE02B35 PRESRR SLP942 P0000 T00830072 401110072
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Well thats whats in the official, set in stone records so i have to use it if im going to highlight the airports on the map. A lot of them are wonky, not just BDL, and not just for the late 90s or 00s. People claim a lot of the NYC data is low, as recent as the blizzard of 2026, but it kinda is what it is. And BDR is notoriously low. yea i remember the blizz of 16 was very low for DCA.
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I just updated the Blizzard of '96 with new maps as well a couple others. I made significant changes to these maps with new reports from the OPU. Mostly the contours/numbers went way up especially for CT/SE MA. It's funny that the PNS/OPUs from around this time, mostly older 90s and 00s, often do not match up with what's in the nowdata (F6). I'm always going to default to what's in the official record books but it makes me wonder sometimes if those numbers are the mistakes and not the PNS. This is another instance where BDL is way off from the F6. BDL on the OPU is 18.2 which seems about right but the F6 is 15.8". Also, i think BDR is totally ridiculous. 15" when all the surrounding reports are around 2 feet. So i'm supposed to believe that BDR got 5" more in the Blizzard of 26 than 96? There's no shot 2026 eclipsed 1996 there, and by 5 inches.
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Darn I just finished that. What about Dec 19 20 2009?
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@Ginx snewx would you happen to have a snowfall total recorded for Jan 7-8 1996? I dunno how far your records go back but you gave me Dec 2000 so i thought maybe you might have one.
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Yeah I was looking at Iron Mountain. They are gonna get whacked. Historic blizzard
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9 years ago today. The Pi-Day blizzard. It was forecast to track near or just inside the BM a couple days out but it was one of those storms that kept inching toward the coast until it's eventual hugger track right over E LI and GON. Blizzard warnings were up for the NYC area into southern New England which were all eventually cancelled and areas further inland were upgraded to blizz warnings. Forecast snow amounts were historic levels around 18-24"+ for coastal areas but a quick changeover to IP cut amounts way back to less than 10 for most areas along 95. Historic level snowfall occurred well inland in upstate new york around the Catskills and capital region with 30-50" in some spots. This was some of the heaviest snow and snow/sleet I've ever seen in the early morning hours of the 14th with rates around 4" per hour. Picked up 9.5" here in just a few hours. I wil eventually get to remapping this and including a Lower Northeast view. https://www.jdjweatherconsulting.com/mar-14-2017
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historic storm for the UP, i was looking at some of the warnings there, 1-3 feet..20-32". Impressive, considering they just a 6-12 dump.
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Yeah I know that's what I been using for years to find all the products for the archive, probably the most active bookmark I have. BTW I credited all you guys for your help at the bottom of the archive main page
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Well it looks like we found an answer to no PNS from BOX pre 1997.. it's there just under a different product name OPU. I just checked jan 1996 is there, Feb 1995 is there. Thanks to @vortex95for that. Big help. Looks like I'll have to go back and re do all the storms pre 1997 that I didn't have BOX and ALY PNS for which will help a lot. They are all on the IEM site.
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Thanks I didn't know that I'll take a look. Do those exist for BOX for the 95-96 season? Specially jan 1996 blizzard? If they do I'll have to redo a lot of those events pre 1997 or so
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It's here: https://www.jdjweatherconsulting.com/historic-storms That's what the historic storms section is for (one reason anyway) for big storms pre-1994. I'm going to go back and touch it up at some point. The reason i stopped at 94-95 is because NEXRAD WSR-88D is unavailable before Jan 1, 1995. So i stopped the seasons at 94-95. Technically there is one event in the 94-95 season, Nov 1994 that doesnt have radar because of that fact. On top of that there is no PNS reports from around 95-97 and earlier depending on the forecast office so reports are thin and it's basically just COOP data so i dont really feel that good about the maps before that time...they are rough and coarse. Thanks. I do the best i can with hand made maps, it's never going to be perfect and there will always be small discrepancies depending on what reports you use or keep out. I try to use every resource available and throw out the bad data. It's all just one persons interpretation thats why you're never going to see two maps that look identical to each other for the same storm. The best ones are the computer generated ones that get fed data and spit out a hi resolution contoured map and factor in terrain. Tomer Burg probably has the best maps out there in my opinion. The NWS maps are also great but they don't filter out a lot of obviously bad data that gets ingested.
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Only 7 months to go..
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I miss the days of sand, salt is terrible for the vehicles but more effective in treating the roads
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I had felt like i had a stroke reading this. Costalwx figured it out though, went over my head
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Zero snow..phantom radar, might be light rain/snow but I don't see anything despite the radar being lit up
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Just wanted to shout out similar archives that have snowfall maps for many significant storms that i never knew even existed until i started working on this last year, except Ray's which is very prominent. A lot of them were helpful in finding additional snowfall reports for past storms. I will add this to the first post on this thread as well. Snowstorm Archives Ray's Winter Storm Archive - NJ Mercer Co (PHI/OKX) focused, 1993-2013 Rutgers State Winter Storm Archive - NJ State (PHI/OKX) focused, 2002-present Steve LaPointe's Weathernet6 Archive - NY Capital Region (ALY) focused, 1993-present Eric Webb's Archive - NC (RAH) focused, 1885-present NWS Snowstorm Archives OKX Significant Weather Events BOX Significant Weather Events ALY Significant Weather Events PHI Significant Weather Events Significant Storms Reanalysis Tomer Burgs PolarWx Archive - Reanalysis of past storms
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I remapped and updated Feb 2013 Blizzard, Jan 2000, Feb 2007, Dec 2010 (Boxing Day) and Jan 2022 as well as added new L. Northeast maps for all events.
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That was my suspicion as well, though it is never noted on any of the PNS from BOX during that time and the data is missing in the now data F6. Do you think it would be fair just to label those as BDL on the maps im doing for that time? Ill wait to see what @H2Otown_WX says
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great, thanks. I'm curious about that because like every PNS has East Granby as an ob, which after those missing years you rarely see.
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But when we are grading the winter its just for our area or town no? Who cares about the rest of the region E MA/N MA/RI etc...respectfully. I'm sure they'd say the same thing when grading their local area. So with that said, we did get a sig event in December 6-10" is a big deal and overall December was well above average with 12-16" around our areas. I think you meant Jan 05. Jan 2005 wasn't a bust per-se but it was a garbage blizzard overall for most of CT. If that happened today, people who consider the Blizzard of 2026 meh or a let down, would be absolutely be bridge jumping if that repeated. Leading up to the storm most models were dumping 2-3" of qpf over CT and most forecasts were for historic territory with 15-30" at the time. What happened was a long duration, light to moderate snowfall with zero verified blizzard conditions for CT, maybe GON? I dont think we ever got above moderate for snowfall. BDR reported -SN to SN the whole time. I remember the deepest drift i could find was about 18" with mostly ~8" in non drift areas. I dont know where the snow went or what happened but reports are all 12-16 around here. Either way, that was still way under what was expected. Same thing with Dec 2003, which was worse Check out the radar here its a joke compared to 2026. https://www.jdjweatherconsulting.com/jan-22-23-2005 https://www.jdjweatherconsulting.com/dec-5-7-2003
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Hey @H2Otown_WX could you help me out with something? There is notorious missing data from BDL from 1996-2002 on the F6 and climo data. However, i have this theory and suspicion i wonder if you could verify or deny it. There are a lot of reports from around that time on the PNS from BOS during significant snow events and almost always lists East Granby. Kind of strange that during that missing data time East Granby is always there but Windsor Locks is not. Did BDL once report from East Granby? When i checked on google maps Bradley International spans over both towns. So it would make sense that it was once reported as "East Granby" instead of Windsor Locks. Though that still doesn't explain why a lot of data is missing. Just a theory, thought you might know or could find out. Thanks.
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We have a chance like Jim Carrey... In all serious though, i saw it, something to keep an eye on, seems like this winter wants to snow late month every month...
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We'll see how the rest of Mar and Apr goes but it can't be lower than A- currently for many a reason. There's really no other winter i can think of overall better than this except for 95-96 and 10-11. Another 1-2 Mar/Apr adv or warning events and ill bump it up. Also no major busts, which is rare for any winter season. Most of our good or great ones had a couple. It's a lot like 2000-2001 with better snow pack. Strictly snowfall amounts yeah, but 04-05 was seriously back loaded. Probably 50-60% of our snow occurred from late feb to late mar that season. Each one melted right after it happened. And the "blizzard" sucked balls for most of CT..hours of light to mod snow that slowly piled up with no blizzard conditions. 02-03 was great but had many many teases and near busts like Dec 2002 christmas blizzard, Jan 2003. Also couldn't touch this season with snow pack. And we ended the season on a major Apr 7th bust. 02-03 was like 95-96 lite with wall to wall snow from Nov to Apr. Both those seasons were good-great but had plenty of problems, i think this winter is better overall, just my opinion.
