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Somebody was supposed to be in the end zone there...you could see Lamar looking as if that was the case.

That is true. But that's not a Tomlin vs Harbs thing...we've been bad with penalties all year, lol I don't know how well you quantify that though (I do wonder what coaches tell teams to not be penalized)

December may be different...that's when we'll need it the most.

Not really--defense did not allow a TD. Easily their best team of the season.

I don't know why this narrative counts today...fumbles, Tucker. Not Harbs fault today.

Of all of our dumb penalties, here's the one that I understand the least: Ineligible man downfield. Why the heck can't our O-lineman stay where they're supposed to stay? I mean dang it's at least one per game with that specifically, smh

Summary of summary: -PDO (although I know there are various elements and blaming one sigular thing isn't the best science--but by perception that has become the main villain of the last 8-9 years!

Man why the euro people gotta go and do that? As if we need more fantasy nonsense to weenie about, lol

I think the "worse" is more on Orr. Here's my theory: What if Zach Orr has just sucked at communicating the plays? I'd imagine a veteran DC could do at least that much. Orr is still calling the plays right now even though Pees is an assistant/advisor. And we agreed that the defense was never this bad under Pees...so to me the only option left is to demote Orr. If Pees hands are in things too much...let him take over so there can be consistent communication.

Nah let him take over. Zach Orr is worse right now. Dean Pees has SB rings

I don't remember Dean Pees defenses being this awful, though...were they?

I'm definitely not ready to rule out meh. If they can find a little extra something down the stretch, that could be just enough.

6-1 vs Joe Burrow, 10-1 against them altogether, lol

Because they had to do SOMETHING. Orr has been in over his head and he played under Pees who he still had a great relationship with...when there are no other viable options, you have to do the best you can. For me..."bend don't break" is still better than a complete breakdown. The "breaking" we've seen with Orr calling the plays is worse than anything Pees did, imo. I'm still in favor of just having Pees take over--I mean at least he did do well enough to win a SB, lol And really...this offense is great enough to carry "bend don't break" (although the communication of defense HAS to improve). And besides...what other moves are available for the Ravens to make at the point?

Better to not speculate until we know. It could be a sprain too.

Or...the offense could just be having an off night no matter what the gameplan was. They're out of sorts for the first time all year. But this is where if you had a better defense...you could withstand it, lol

I don't remember it being THIS bad. I'm starting to wonder about age here...

Pssh not even that long...Day 10 at the latest! We saw can kicks happen two weeks out...so you almost wonder if it's better to just go from discreet threat to discreet threat!

As always, great points. I will say this too: For those millennial like me, I think the perspective is a bit skewed, because if you're like me and your working memory for snowstorms started at the blizzard of 96...the span from then to 2016 was one in which you still had those 3-6"ers, and every 3-4 years you'd get a good-sized storm of either a foot, or maybe two feet every 6-7 years or so. So the dud years in between were normal and expected. What we didn't see? This long of a stretch without seeing more than 5-6". Like, that never happened. It was always 3 duds then a good one. Not 8 straight like this! So I guess what I'm saying is that there is generational slanted perspective for some of us. What was a realistic expectation seems to have changed.

Please do, lol

Man how long has that dang heatwave been off of Japan anyway? 5 years? Seems like every winter there it is...

Oy if we're talking about the MJO already that tells ya where things are, haha MJO! For when nothing else is working and we wanna grasp at straws

Hasn't there been a warm anomaly there the last few winters? Seems like I've seen "wpac warm pool" a lot...

Why do Ninas tend to repeat like that anyway? Annoying as heck!

I don't know what you sound like, but I can hear the grumpy CAPE Ravens voice all over this, hahaha So again my question is...what are our options? (Real question--if there's an alternative I'd be all for it, lol)