40/70 Benchmark

Theoretically speaking, the combination of a better pattern relative to the atrocious regime of the past several years coupled with increased moisture owed to a warmer climate...not to mention any potential volcanic implications. Surely you have considered this given that you are a bastion of objectivity on the topic, Mr. @TheClimateChanger...

I've resisted...probably try to tough it out through tomorrow night.

Chef's kiss-mic drop....I had never even thought of that. A larger number of smaller events means less error....its the "all" events that are riddled with greater inconsistency and when there is mixed precipitation, some of those are UNDERmeasured...undoubtedly.

Annual Ptown family trip?

I think there are a few odd birds on this site that find it uncomfortable to be human....as someone that has been to several weather conference, I can tell you that there are.

I think a reasonable compromise is that maybe amounts are inflated by like 10% on average today because I don't think anyone used the clear method 100 years ago...I am even willing to concede that, but this obstinant insistance that its 15-20% is frustrating becaues its not as clear cut as he portrays it. I'm sure the array of reports wasn't as dense as it is today, either, so maybe snowfall back then was also a bit under represented if some higher amounts were missed. I don't reject that entire concept, but just feel its overstated.

I have had measurements derived from 6 hour clears tossed by the NWS in larger events, so he is incorrect, whether or not he chooses to acknowledge it or not. Others have also cited instances in which it was apparent that Central Park significantly under reported snowfall in mixed events. Its like we can sit here and see that the sky is blue, but I'm sure Chris or anyone else can scour the internet for a peer reviewed arcitcle that argues that isn't blue...not going to change my mind, sorry.

I thik the jury is still out for the NE interior coastal plane, which is where I am.

You can use precipitation rate for the middle one..I use it before the other tool updates when I do monthly recaps.

Absolutely agree....this is where I am at.

Its a start....express yourself Rain for he, she, they them and all on MMD weekend.

Yea, 3-6 panic attacks for Scooter with a 50% chance of MDD.

We always get perect winter patterns in spring now. Memorial Day 2005 redux.

Bodies reburied?

We were referring to NE coastal areas when the 7 year comment was made. Like I have said previously, modern snowdfall is undermeasured more often today than you imply due to mixed precipitation events and many observers not utilizing the 6 hour swipe method.

Like I said to Chuck, can't say confidently we are switching to +PDO yet, but I think its close...within the next few years.

I fininished 2014-2015 with 115" and 2017-2018 was 88.5"....my long term average is in the lower 60s.

This is pure nonsense....I don't care that you can dig up articles supporting it. My statement about 7 years was in relation to CC drastically lowering snowfall....what I said was 7 years ago I had just had two months of over 60" of snow within a 3 year window, so I'm not sure how on earth one could confidently conclude that CC was lowering my snowfall at that point.

Seriously, though...its as plausible a theory as anything else. Just going to have to let things play out into the next decade.

You mean to tell me you think we will remain in a -PDO pattern as a result of CC for all of eternity? I never would have guessed that....in other news, I have a hunch the sun angle will begin to lower in about 5 weeks

Yea, maybe we take one last step backwards in that regard next season before the -PDO cycle takes its last breath.

No, I agree with all of this...I wasn't trying to imply that I expect to enter the -NAO muiltidecadal cycle around the next solar min...I meant literally maybe one season that averages more negative. My larger point concerning solar min is that if we don't see a good winter through the next solar min, then I will start to consider CC as a larger contributor. I do not expect a flip in the NAO decadal cycle....PDO, I do.

Maybe so, but we should get thrown a bone around or shortly after solar min.

Exactly. ..that is what I honed in on.