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Right. I get what a means, though....2012 was more sensibly appealing.

Well, get used to it because that is largely how CC manifests.

Again, two different issues. I get that.

For the prupose of verification in metoeorology, or any science for that matter, I most certainly will.

I think we will end up colder than 2012`....just saying so far.

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Well, deflect whichever way you would like....its been as anomalous as March 2012, regardless of whether you have slept through it.

We are referring to two different concepts. I am speaking numerical departures....you are focusing on sensible appeal.

Unsavory. Typo.

Sure, but utlimately departures are how we measure monthly outcomes. We are all in agreement this has been a more unsavory warmth than 2012. Yep.

What is there not to get? The departures are what they are...I didn't manipulate the data. So we have gotten there through warmer nights...its still a huge anomaly. The second half will be colder, yes....agreed.

Congrats on the 3 hour variation-

Yea, I agree.....but I just don't see it changing until that PAC configuration shakes up. Some feel as though it won't...I am not in the camp. TBH, it isn't shtting on my personal outlook results that irritates me so much as being resigned to the fact that long range efforts in general will always be futile. I don't believe that to be the case....will it be within our lifetime that its gets figured out? Probably not....

Great question....because regardless of ENSO state, or what the arctic is doing, the forcing has remained predominately pinned over the MC and that has been informative. But you are right....its not just one thing and eventually it will be something else....but for now, that is the driver.

Maybe enough to bury a weenie

Oh, you are getting that from weathermodels.com....I'm on the Prism site...

It did suck. lol The thing is that it isn't diffiuclt to see what has been hurting us....regardless of what the polar domain has done, the last several winters have sucked. Its because of the west PAC warmth stagnating the forcing in the MC, regardless of ENSO. If that changes, then sure...time to reconsider. But if that does not change and we have a robust Modoki La Nina upon us, then its not as ambiguous as you imply. Your use of the term "nonsense" is what is nonsensical, since there is pretty iron clad science behind how the impact that MC forcing has on our region and the relationship between the polar domain and the descending phase of the solar cycle, which is where we are headed. The Pacific may change, but the solar cycle will not.

I'm not sure how many times you want me to say I was wrong.....sucked, suck, stink, stank, stunk. The issue with you is that your thought process is so reductive that you can't see the forest through the trees....you throw a temper tantrum and disparage any long range efforts when they run contrary to snow/cold. The reason why I feel the next few years will suck is the same reason my past 2 outlooks have sucked...its because of what is going on in the west PAC. I do think it will eventually change, but not a for a few years.

Flooding.

Having trouble finding the anomaly maps on that site...

This is true, but to be fair, so isn't this....

It defitely requires an adjustment that I have struggled to make.

You get so defensive when someone doesn't milk your snowman prostate.

For the most part, a very mild and snowless December in La Niña is a very bad sign.

Not me....I was out over a month ago. My overall outlook was a fail, but I was never in on a big ending.