snowman19 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 20 hours ago, roardog said: It’s not just 2023 though. Didn’t Nino years like 1976(or was it 1977) and 2002 do the same? I know 2002 had April heat and a very cool May. Obviously those years didn’t end up being strong Nino. I think it’s more of just a “Nino thing” regardless of eventual strength. Yes, we have had numerous 90°+ events in the Northeast during developing El Niños in April. But the 500mb forecast most closely matches 2023 with a shift to strong blocking. Makes sense since this one is coupling with the atmosphere and is much stronger early on like 2023. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakePaste25 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Can really see how things start to diverge in terms of position of the warmest SSTa’s after December. With Nino 1+2 warmth (east-based), Jan and Feb are also warm. With Nino 3.4, the correlation starts to break in Feb. With Nino 4 (central to west pacific), it actually correlated to a cold Feb. So while December is universally expected to be mild regardless, whether we get a backloaded winter or near wall to wall torch is based on whether the anomalies are focused on the Eastern Pacific vs Central. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, LakePaste25 said: Based on the above maps for Jan, I’m going to consider renting a place in Anniston, AL, just for that month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roardog Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago I see the SOI has gone strongly positive in the last couple of days. I don’t know how long that’ll last though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted 54 minutes ago Share Posted 54 minutes ago Subsurface anomalies over +5C showing up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 13 minutes ago Share Posted 13 minutes ago 42 minutes ago, snowman19 said: Subsurface anomalies over +5C showing up: The 5+ is centered pretty far west (140-160 W, which is west central 3.4. Hoping that’s a sign that El Niño will be center to west based like Cansips suggests and not east based like NMME shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so_whats_happening Posted 8 minutes ago Share Posted 8 minutes ago Well this was quite the surprise to see https://psl.noaa.gov/enso/mei/ Feb/Mar MEI at -1, responses were starting to show in March but I will be curious if Mar/Apr will start to move toward neutral at least. While oceanic response seems to be there atmospherically something is off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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