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E PA/NJ/DE Winter 2025-26 Obs/Discussion


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1 hour ago, Blue Dream said:

That one sucked here...white rain all day and ending in a burst of heavy snow that night if i remember correctly.

Yeah, the further south you went, the more disappointing the storm was.

1 hour ago, ChescoWx said:

February 2010 - a not too shabby snow month.

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Amazing how the snow was pretty much all in the first 10 days. The pattern totally flipped in March, and of course, we had record warm temperatures during the entire spring and summer.

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37 minutes ago, Newman said:

Euro AI is east of 6z but still not bad for much of SE PA at all, widespread 6-12" with more along the Jersey coast. Well within the ensemble envelope at this range.

Interested in what the Euro AI ensembles look like compared to 6z. 

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3 hours ago, The Iceman said:

Well if Newman, Heisy, and Ralph are all excited for 12z runs, fuck it I’m in too :bike:
 

I will add, the track of the primary brings me concern on both the GFS and Euro AI, I know they show snow right now but I think it would be hard for us not to change over to sleet if that track is correct. Icon is a great start to 12z though wow. That’s just about a perfect outcome…

My expectations remain tempered. Too many SE leaning members across the ens.

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27 minutes ago, Lucy Pull said:

Interested in what the Euro AI ensembles look like compared to 6z. 

Euro AI ensemble definitely more amplified 6z to 12z based off NYC forum. Pretty good westerly leaning cluster

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12 minutes ago, Snowguy66 said:

If you say no most of the time you're gonna be correct most of the time

Certainly not suggesting he is right (I am FKN moron, what do I know?) but his reasoning of why no storm has been backed up by the EURO at the moment. Just contributing others thoughts is all. 

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2 minutes ago, Duca892 said:

Certainly not suggesting he is right (I am FKN moron, what do I know?) but his reasoning of why no storm has been backed up by the EURO at the moment. Just contributing others thoughts is all. 

GEFS went east. This is the fail scenario that most concers me and fits seasonal pattern. 

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This 96-132 hour range is where we've been at on a few occasions this winter, and ever since the beginning of weather tracking itself, that models begin to trend towards less favorable outcomes. I'd say 8 or even 9 times out of 10 when a MECS/HECS is seemingly looking likely, it falls apart in this specific hour range. It's all fun and games until the NAM is in range. There is no such thing as a rug pull at this point, we have so long to go.

One of the more discouraging shifts in NWP in recent years has been the lack of confidence gained from some ensemble guidance. And what I mean is the EPS and GEFS tend to follow the OP or be incredibly underdispersive. Despite some gripes with them, the ensembles are truly our best form of guidance at this range if you know how to use them. These pretty snow maps from the deterministic models are fun to look at, but they're purely entertainment at this range. With that in mind, if you blend the EPS, Euro AIFS ENS, GEFS, and CMC Ens... You find that you're basically split 50/50 on a hit or miss. The good news? The EPS has been trending towards the big solutions. And the GEFS is just a bad model, so who cares lol.

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