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MO/KS/AR/OK 2024-2025 Winter Discussion


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Even though it's far out for the NAM, it did have the 700 MB winds more back to a more southerly direction on the 18z compared to the 12z, lots of warm moist air from the south on the 700 MB temp advection map lifting up and over the cold temps. Also from the Springfield AFD. Useless. 

>8 inches: 15-80% (lowest near MO/AR border)
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29 minutes ago, JoMo said:

Even though it's far out for the NAM, it did have the 700 MB winds more back to a more southerly direction on the 18z compared to the 12z, lots of warm moist air from the south on the 700 MB temp advection map lifting up and over the cold temps. Also from the Springfield AFD. Useless. 

>8 inches: 15-80% (lowest near MO/AR border)

Also, put me on the list of those that find the probabilities a waste of my time and confusing to the general public. 

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This is really the battle going on for snow totals.

Massive difference at noon Tuesday.

The Euro is 11 degrees colder than the NAM.

2 days out from now, that's a pretty large discrepancy.

The GFS sides with the NAM temps, the Canadian and ICON side with the EURO.

I personally think when the Canadian and Euro are in agreement, it tends to be the outcome.

I said it the other day, and I'll eat crowe if I'm wrong. But I think this airmass of pure arctic air is so strong at the various heights that it will keep sleet and Freezing rain well south of Tulsa. 

I think it'll be mostly snow the entire time and Tulsa and points north get 6-12. Just my weenie two cents.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, MUWX said:

Springfield going with a warning this early is a little surprising 

It is a bit early, but 6-10" with 14" in snow bands seems reasonable although their southern counties could bust if there's movement north of the heaviest snow. 

EDIT: 18z NAM continues the slow creep northward with the heaviest amounts. 

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