Occasional Thoughts on Climate Change

[ChescoWx]

8 minutes ago, chubbs said:

As usual your post is BS with no raw data provided.  Per table below, the only stations in the county with long-term data are West Chester, Coatesville and Phoenixville. The main source of bias in these three stations are the station moves at Coatesville and West Chester. Remove the station moves and the three stations provide the only low-bias raw data that spans the entire period. Funny that you don't like raw data when it shows warming.

We've only had one set of weather in Chester County. Any stations without biasing station changes will be in close agreement. No chance of a different non-biased dataset erasing the warming seen at West Chester, Coatesville and Phoenixville. Certainly not the small amount of pre-2010 data outside the big 3.

Unlike the big 3, The other stations in the table have short records, don't span the entire period when combined, and are inconsistent: The earliest stations were coops in towns, while the most recent stations are mainly non-coops in parks. The only thing you are getting from the added stations is bias. You are averaging warm stations early and cooler stations more recently. No wonder you can't find the local warming.

 

If not for the ghost data there is no warming to be found...52 of 53 years of fake chill applied to the raw/actual readings that is the only way you can find signs of local warming in Chester County.

[CAPE]

On 5/29/2025 at 5:30 PM, Typhoon Tip said:

there is no altered data..  stop it.  

Why do y'all bother to engage this anti-science MAGAt? Futile. These people are unfixable. Ignore and move on.

[ChescoWx]

21 minutes ago, CAPE said:

Why do y'all bother to engage this anti-science MAGAt? Futile. These people are unfixable. Ignore and move on.

you sound.....nice. Facts over feelings that is all I present.

[rcostell]

1 hour ago, ChescoWx said:

The extremists and climate myth believers are no doubt...displeased with the rising tide of folks who now have come to realization that climate change is of course a nothing burger.

So what is your position on Climate change- is it "Cyclical" or "a nothing burger"?   Does it change? Is the larger trend warmer? No? Is there life beyond Chester County?  I just got back from Valais Canton in Switzerland. I can assure you that the people who used to live in the village of Blatten, after the glacier collapse do not think that a warming climate is a "nothing burger".   ...and thats a fact.    

[ChescoWx]

1 hour ago, rcostell said:

So what is your position on Climate change- is it "Cyclical" or "a nothing burger"? a cyclical nothing burger   Does it change? climate is always changing Is the larger trend warmer? we are in a current warmer cycle No? Is there life beyond Chester County? Is there a climate wall around Chester County?  I just got back from Valais Canton in Switzerland. I can assure you that the people who used to live in the village of Blatten, after the glacier collapse do not think that a warming climate is a "nothing burger".   ...and thats a fact.  This has happened before and will happen again the reason as is usually the case in Alpine glacier collapses is the destabilized mountain rock.....

See answers above

[ChescoWx]

The "man made" adjusted chilled data is in red.....the actual raw data is in blue. The below is documented proof that man does impact our climate.

[rcostell]

19 hours ago, ChescoWx said:

See answers above

Here's the thoughts on the causal mechanism.   The Swiss live in concert with glaciers, rockfall and permafrost. I too, have seen these landscapes rapidly changing in places I've visited such as the Central and Northern Rockies, Austrian and Swiss Alps, Norwegian Alps, Dolomites and Iceland. The changes there are accelerating as one can readily see and in talking with the locals- you don't need a lot of data to understand what is going on.  They are huge and macro in nature.  I'd ask that Dyou do a little reading on glaciology and get familiar with this science before you readily use the words "nothing burger".   Maybe in a small county in Pa.  according to your rightly disputed charts- but to throw that opinion around conflicts with observed real life.  I hope you can realize that.  

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-causes-glaciers-to-collapse-like-the-event-that-buried-a-swiss-village/#:~:text=The glacier's collapse and the,the past couple of weeks.

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, rcostell said:

Here's the thoughts on the causal mechanism.   The Swiss live in concert with glaciers, rockfall and permafrost. I too, have seen these landscapes rapidly changing in places I've visited such as the Central and Northern Rockies, Austrian and Swiss Alps, Norwegian Alps, Dolomites and Iceland. The changes there are accelerating as one can readily see and in talking with the locals- you don't need a lot of data to understand what is going on.  They are huge and macro in nature.  I'd ask that Dyou do a little reading on glaciology and get familiar with this science before you readily use the words "nothing burger".   Maybe in a small county in Pa.  according to your rightly disputed charts- but to throw that opinion around conflicts with observed real life.  I hope you can realize that.  

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-causes-glaciers-to-collapse-like-the-event-that-buried-a-swiss-village/#:~:text=The glacier's collapse and the,the past couple of weeks.

They're going to have a big problem with fresh water supplies if they aren't already.  And throughout Europe.