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3 minutes ago, dswx said:

Oh I am definite. " All I’m suggesting is that it may be time to realign geographiry to fit in better with the WAA issues AKQ deals with." Those were not what your words suggested at all.  You said "LWX is consistently better". What part of the current Winter Storm Watch issued for Lousia, Goochland, etc. at 3:28 pm today is too complicated to comprehend with the event more than 24 hours away? And btw, perhaps LWX might want to realign their geography to fit in better with what AKQ deals with. The idea that LWX is consistently better is nothing but trash.

I'm out of here precisely due to this sort of uninformed, cheap shot NWS office bashing since it is not the first time. That is not the same as discussing the synoptic pattern or models. And I speak as a professional (non-NWS) met. So long.

I have no issue with what they’re doing so far with this storm AKQ. I don’t know the reason but December 9th was botched. There was lots of good guidance showing double digit snowfall totals, inside of 48 hours. Never pulled the trigger. Thankfully it was on a Sunday. On a workday it would have been a disaster on the roadways, with unprepared motorists.

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8 minutes ago, wasnow215 said:

I have no issue with what they’re doing so far with this storm AKQ. I don’t know the reason but December 9th was botched. There was lots of good guidance showing double digit snowfall totals, inside of 48 hours. Never pulled the trigger. Thankfully it was on a Sunday. On a workday it would have been a disaster on the roadways, with unprepared motorists.

Agreed

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1 minute ago, LP08 said:

Richmond view of the Euro start as snow then...

 

 

 

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If we start as snow then there's a chance it keeps the atmosphere cold enough to stay as snow

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2 minutes ago, Hyphnx said:

If we start as snow then there's a chance it keeps the atmosphere cold enough to stay as snow

Will depend on the final low track no matter if you start as snow or not.  I have a rooting interest down there as my sister lives just north of the city.  GL!!

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There is a lot of warm air advection at mid levels.  There's no closed 850 mb low to keep temperatures colder; the precipitation is basically one prolonged warm air advection event until Sunday afternoon when 850 mb winds turn northerly. This seems like a case where models would be more likely to under-do this warm air than over-do. I'd be hedging lower on the snow totals, higher on the ice/sleet. 

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Just now, WhiteoutWX said:

There is a lot of warm air advection at mid levels.  There's no closed 850 mb low to keep temperatures colder; the precipitation is basically one prolonged warm air advection event until Sunday afternoon when 850 mb winds turn northerly. This seems like a case where models would be more likely to under-do this warm air than over-do. I'd be hedging lower on the snow totals, higher on the ice/sleet. 

So I guess you’re not a big fan of the DT first call?

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16 minutes ago, Freshies said:

Looks great but doesn't mean much given the aforementioned issues with mid-levels/mixing etc....

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There a Kuchera for this?

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Finally!  AKQ woke up and matched the WSW for their northern and western zones, finally matching up with the other offices. It only was about an 8 hour delay?

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Early morning runs not doing us many favors..  Hopefully we can get lucky at the end with some wraparound moister... Could be a frustrating  back&forth storm till the end  stock up on some.. :popcorn: and don't jump off the :cliff:

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1 minute ago, Inudaw said:

Might be more rain than we initially thought.  NOt as much snow,  ice favored, then goes to rain?   

I think an ice storm is very possible. Anyone have the ice numbers from latest NAM?  Cuz 10:1 latest NAM is high but it ain’t snow! 

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Just Rain doubtful in and around the RVA.. ice looking more and more likely for this area.. back end looks good for us but will it happen? Some models have dry air coming in between the event in this area so that could help limit the freezing rain/sleet and maybe change it to just rain if light enough.. Hard to know until the storm makes it over the mountains 

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1 minute ago, eaglesin2011 said:

Just Rain doubtful .. ice looking more and more likely

Stinks. Preparing for power outages. If anyone has good ice accumulation products let me no plz. From the models I mean. And no power during Eagles game!!! Noooooooo! Lol

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Still holding out hope that we can stay frozen.  I would absolutely HATE for it to be just a cold rain at 33 degrees.  On the 12k name, the 32 degree line runs right through RVA. 

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10 minutes ago, NovaTarHeel said:

Wow, I hope that's wrong.  .5 of ice would cause a TON of power outages. 

 

11 minutes ago, mikeeng92 said:

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Thanks. Not good 

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Def a better solution then frz/rain .I still think a ice storm is a good bet around parts of this  area tho.. hopefully to many people won't be caught of guard ...Still haven't seen the networks  talking about it much yet

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14 minutes ago, Inudaw said:

Honestly won't be surprised if we go to plain rain at this in the East end. 

Agreed! That NAM ice prog is showing ice for areas like Goochland that were looking at 4-8! Hoping for a crusty inch and expecting less here in the city. At least this will shut up the DC weenies...didn’t realize how awful they are until I didn’t live there anymore lol

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5 minutes ago, Freshies said:

Agreed! That NAM ice prog is showing ice for areas like Goochland that were looking at 4-8! Hoping for a crusty inch and expecting less here in the city. At least this will shut up the DC weenies...didn’t realize how awful they are until I didn’t live there anymore lol

Don’t worry about them. They are to us SOME OF THEM, like some new Englanders are to them. Lol. We had 13-15” before calendar winter began on 12/9 lol. DC not so much. :D

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16 minutes ago, eaglesin2011 said:

Def a better solution then frz/rain . Def still think a ice storm is a good bet around parts of this  area tho.. hopefully to many people won't be caught of guard but still haven't seen the networks  talking about it much yet

Possible to see some snow then freezing rain then back to snow especially nw areas of 95. Ugh for frz rain. But yes east end may be ok.

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Yeah I have to Agree the ice storm line def looking to be moving more n/w.. The wrap around snow could go all the way into the VA beach areas if it develops at the end of the storm..... Def will be nteresting to see develop.

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10 minutes ago, wasnow215 said:

Don’t worry about them. They are to us SOME OF THEM, like some new Englanders are to them. Lol. We had 13-15” before calendar winter began on 12/9 lol. DC not so much. :D

Trust me...I know! I have been lurking on these boards since Eastern (under a different screen name). I recently created a new profile because my name was DC centric and I didn’t want to be judged here in RVA lol. We need to post more in this thread...using the main thread for RVA specific progs is no bueno.

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2 minutes ago, Freshies said:

Trust me...I know! I have been lurking on these boards since Eastern (under a different screen name). I recently created a new profile because my name was DC centric and I didn’t want to be judged here in RVA lol. We need to post more in this thread...using the main thread for RVA specific progs is no bueno.

Yep. Folks here have been helpful

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