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MO/KS/AR/OK 2019-2020 Winter Wonderland Discussion


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John Slater from Kfor in Okc via his FB page.

"My confidence is now high on a snow event with the heaviest snow right along the I 44 zone OKC to Tulsa Saturday.

While not a blockbuster storm this will be the biggest snow in many years to impact central and northeastern OK.

My first guess is about 4 to 6 inches of snow along the I 44 zone.

Ground temps are not a factor. It's January and temps will be in the 20s with snow falling.

Road will become snow packed and hazardous.

There is still wiggle room in the exact track.

So yes, the track and where the heaviest snow falls can still change after all this is weather we are trying to forecast.

And you can all tell me how bad a forecaster I am if the track changes. That's OK I'll take the heat.

But I believe in preparing for worst and hoping for the best."

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1 minute ago, MUWX said:

Yep. Basically down to trusting the GFS or trusting everything else. I think we all know the answer when those are the two options 

12z GFS and 12z Euro are quite similar. The Euro snow map posted above didn't capture the MO snow that happens. Up to what, 2-3" in your area on the 12z? Last nights Euro had you at around 1". So there was an eastward shift. The GFS is still a smidge SE of the Euro though with more amounts.

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Just now, JoMo said:

12z GFS and 12z Euro are quite similar. The Euro snow map posted above didn't capture the MO snow that happens. Up to what, 2-3" in your area on the 12z? Last nights Euro had you at around 1". So there was an eastward shift. The GFS is still a smidge SE of the Euro though with more amounts.

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My bad. Didn't realize what was posted wasn't complete. That's not a bad run. 2-3 for me. 

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8 minutes ago, ouamber said:

So is this a Winter Weather Advisory criteria or Winter Storm Watch criteria??

That's tough, probably a Winter Weather advisory with a strip of Winter Storm Watch where they expect the heaviest snow band? Although that isn't taking into account any possible ice that may make them issue a WSW for the entire area expecting frozen precip down there.

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49 minutes ago, JoMo said:

That's tough, probably a Winter Weather advisory with a strip of Winter Storm Watch where they expect the heaviest snow band? Although that isn't taking into account any possible ice that may make them issue a WSW for the entire area expecting frozen precip down there.

The NE part of Oklahoma looks to get a pretty good shot at freezing rain before it all changes to snow. 

Canadian picking up on the system at the end of next week.

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20 minutes ago, StormChazer said:

Btw, the Euro members supported the OP run highly, if not a little more east.

Can you toss those up if you have time? Be interesting to see.

Looks like the 18z NAM has found more precip, although it's back across KS.

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Looks like Wichita going with a Winter Storm Watch for it's SE counties:

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...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY EVENING THROUGH
SATURDAY AFTERNOON...

* WHAT...Heavy mixed precipitation possible. Total snow
  accumulations of 3 to 6 inches and light ice accumulations of
  around one tenth of an inch possible. Winds could gust as high
  as 35 or 40 mph.

 

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1 minute ago, StormChazer said:

This isn't all the way out yet, so don't fret MO peeps. But it does pick up on that deformation zone and puts it pretty much over NE OK. I'm more interested in that trend east than anything else. That area used to be 70 miles west.

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Noticed the east trend as well

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3 minutes ago, MUWX said:

The 18z HRRR (long range run) is starting to get into the beginning hours of the event. Cold air is similar to the NAM, which is interesting. 

Yeah they both have weaker surface lows than the global models.

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Springfield:

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3. Winter weather: On the backside of the system as initially
shallow cold air moves into southeast KS and western MO Friday
night into Saturday, a wintry mix of freezing rain/drizzle, then
sleet then finally snow is expected. The snow on Saturday will
likely be the result the trailing upper low moving through the
region with a weak trowal signature. Where this sets up is still
in some question. Some ice accumulation will also be possible as
the cold air first moves in as the sfc wave passes off to the
southeast. Followed fairly close to WPC guidance for snow/ice
amounts, maybe a little higher on the snow over the western half
of the cwfa. After coordination, will issue a Winter Storm Watch
for a snow-ice combo for some of our west-northwest counties for
late Friday night and Saturday.

 

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5 minutes ago, JoMo said:

Eh, There's some sleet contamination in there in some places though. Really throws things off in some places.

 

Its still pretty displaced from the WSW. If the GFS verifies, those watches need to be shifted east. 

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