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Northern Ohio Obs/Discussion Part 2


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1 minute ago, OHweather said:

Here is the storm total snow forecast from this afternoon through 7 PM Thursday (so just this ongoing event)...it was a big jump from prior forecasts, but still too low in the Toledo area and I suspect will be too low in locations downwind of Lake Erie from Sandusky points east. Coming up on an inch of snow, heaviest still off to the northwest. Initial signs of the first bit of lake enhancement near Cleveland on radar. 

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Correct. I finished with 4” here in Toledo. Heck of a surprise and a terrible commute home. Anyone without 4WD was struggling

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50 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

Definitely an overachiever, between 10-11" on my deck and still snowing moderately.   Going to be some big totals if we can hold on to some moisture through this afternoon.  

What an event so far... measured 10" and the radar looks great.  Really heavy snow within the stronger bands. Looks like the 422 corridor is locked in again. 

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Had 6.4” at home at 7:15am, probably about 7” at the office in Brooklyn Hts and still in and out of heavy, fluffy snow. Great event, generally overachieving across the board. Another few hours through the early afternoon where activity should remain intense before it diminishes from west to east into this evenings 

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21 minutes ago, LakeEffectOH said:

Here in Chesterland, I believe at least 15” fell as of now with 3’ drifts against the front of my house.  Easily the heaviest snow here since 12/2020!!

Congrats, you were due this year!

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Yeah, I think it’s fair to say ice will be a limiting factor for LES for the foreseeable figure. It should still be open enough for significant snow Sunday through the first half of next week, but a majority of that will probably go into western NY. There is a window Monday into Monday night for a more westerly flow to try to push lake effect into the northern portions of the primary NE Ohio snowbelt. 
 

Interesting signal for some convective snow showers with the cold front later tomorrow morning into the afternoon. Wouldn’t add up to all that much, but someone could get a nice snow squall. 

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4 hours ago, NEOH said:

Lots of ice on the lake... most of it is probably mobile but its not going anywhere anytime soon. Seems like these arctic outbreaks always come with WSW wind lake effect events.  Would have been nice to squeeze in one more event prior to the ice cover.

 

 

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Ah bummer, figured it wouldn't take long with this cold stretch.   

Looks like a chance for a few inches tomorrow and tomorrow night.  

Maybe we can reel in this weekend storm that appears to be slowly bumping north?

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1 hour ago, NEOH said:

Heard a little thunder with the squalls last night... that's 2x this week. Picked up just under 2".  Looks like the strong winds have pushed the thin ice around quite a bit. It will likely refreeze quickly with the cold temps but could add some lake enhancement with the storm over the weekend. 

 

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I wonder if anything was mixed in with the snow.  The roads this morning were unusually slushy for 1-2" of snow with temps in the upper 20s.

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1 hour ago, LakeEffectOH said:

I wonder if anything was mixed in with the snow.  The roads this morning were unusually slushy for 1-2" of snow with temps in the upper 20s.

The roads were bad this morning. The ground is very cold so perhaps that had an impact. Not sure the plow crews (at least locally) were planning on the snow. They weren't out until 5 or 6 am. 

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The weekend storm could be one of the most widespread we have had in a while.  Some pretty large totals from icon, UK and Canadian runs.  Will be interesting once we get into short range to see if the lake will add on anything additional.... though most likely frozen by then.   

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1 hour ago, NEOH said:

The roads were bad this morning. The ground is very cold so perhaps that had an impact. Not sure the plow crews (at least locally) were planning on the snow. They weren't out until 5 or 6 am. 

Yeah, the fact that it was so cold the night before last had an impact, I'm sure.

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Surprised to see a Warning already issued this morning.   I like the snow forecast, conservative compared to some outputs.  

.WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM SATURDAY TO 10 AM EST 
MONDAY...

* WHAT...Heavy snow expected. Total snow accumulations between 7 and 
  10 inches.

* WHERE...Portions of north central and northeast Ohio.

* WHEN...From 7 PM Saturday to 10 AM EST Monday.

* IMPACTS...Travel could be difficult. The hazardous conditions 
  could impact the Monday morning commute.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Snow will spread into the region Saturday 
  night and peak in intensity during the day Sunday. The snow will 
  gradually taper off late Sunday night into Monday. Sub-zero wind 
  chills are expected Saturday night into Sunday morning, and again 
  Sunday night into Monday morning.
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58 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

Surprised to see a Warning already issued this morning.   I like the snow forecast, conservative compared to some outputs.  

.WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM SATURDAY TO 10 AM EST 
MONDAY...

* WHAT...Heavy snow expected. Total snow accumulations between 7 and 
  10 inches.

* WHERE...Portions of north central and northeast Ohio.

* WHEN...From 7 PM Saturday to 10 AM EST Monday.

* IMPACTS...Travel could be difficult. The hazardous conditions 
  could impact the Monday morning commute.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Snow will spread into the region Saturday 
  night and peak in intensity during the day Sunday. The snow will 
  gradually taper off late Sunday night into Monday. Sub-zero wind 
  chills are expected Saturday night into Sunday morning, and again 
  Sunday night into Monday morning.

7" - 10" does seem a bit conservative. Maybe that is based on 10:1 ratios. Most models have at least .7" of precip... so there is upside if we can get better ratios.

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5 minutes ago, NEOH said:

7" - 10" does seem a bit conservative. Maybe that is based on 10:1 ratios. Most models have at least .7" of precip... so there is upside if we can get better ratios.

That could be.   I'm guessing the totals will creep up as we get closer to the storm. 

Curious to get @OHweather thoughts on the storm.   I'm also wondering if model qpf output takes into account the dry air in place and qpf that will be wasted due to saturation?

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29 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

That could be.   I'm guessing the totals will creep up as we get closer to the storm. 

Curious to get @OHweather thoughts on the storm.   I'm also wondering if model qpf output takes into account the dry air in place and qpf that will be wasted due to saturation?

Definitely looking forward to OHWeather's thoughts. Complete whiteout in South Russell now with the squall pushing through. 

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