on_wx Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 whatever's going on in altona and dominion city is heading southeast into northern MN. and the storms are looking nasty, even on the EC radars that i can get to. i wonder how much EC/MSC winnipeg is coordinating with GFK on these storms Also that supercell that is just a hair south of Altona MB just went tornado warned for northeastern ND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Marusak Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Altona was under a tornado warning today, is everything alright? I saw on the news at some poiont that Brandon and Altona installed sirens. Lambton County ON has a network of tornado sirens, and so does the town of Elmira about 15km north of here. Other cities in Ontario probably have them too. any idea what the guys and gals in oakville at TWN are saying on these storms in the way of observed weather? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 any idea what the guys and gals in oakville at TWN are saying on these storms in the way of observed weather? For the first time in 25 minutes they mentioned "storm warnings in southern MB" now they are looking at the long range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Marusak Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 For the first time in 25 minutes they mentioned "storm warnings in southern MB" now they are looking at the long range. i am tempted here to get onto nwschat over at fgf to see what is going on. but i don't want to encourage work to call me in, and i'm on call this evening.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Marusak Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 whatever the case, there's a decent amount of rotation being shown on the GFK radar attm between emerson and hallock, and near vita heading towards roseau/warroad; that far out from the radar site. may be a rough ride up there for the next little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Looks like there may be some coordination between WFO Winnipeg and NWS FGF 2207 67 MPH 2 N ST. VINCENT KITTSON MN4900 9722 REPORTED BY CANADIAN METEOROLOGICAL SERVICE. (FGF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 The tornado warnings have reached Ontario SEVERE WEATHER BULLETIN ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA AT 7:18 PM EDT MONDAY 4 JULY 2011. --------------------------------------------------------------------- WATCHES/WARNINGS IN EFFECT FOR NORTHERN ONTARIO... TORNADO WARNING FOR: =NEW= KENORA - GRASSY NARROWS - WHITEDOG. A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WITH POTENTIAL FOR A TORNADO WILL MOVE THROUGH THE KENORA AREA BETWEEN 6:25 AND 6:45 CDT. SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS LIKELY PRODUCING TORNADOES ARE IMMINENT OR OCCURRING IN THE AREA. LARGE HAIL, DAMAGING WINDS AND HEAVY RAINFALL MAY ALSO ACCOMPANY THESE STORMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Marusak Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 The tornado warnings have reached Ontario SEVERE WEATHER BULLETIN ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA AT 7:18 PM EDT MONDAY 4 JULY 2011. --------------------------------------------------------------------- WATCHES/WARNINGS IN EFFECT FOR NORTHERN ONTARIO... TORNADO WARNING FOR: =NEW= KENORA - GRASSY NARROWS - WHITEDOG. A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WITH POTENTIAL FOR A TORNADO WILL MOVE THROUGH THE KENORA AREA BETWEEN 6:25 AND 6:45 CDT. SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS LIKELY PRODUCING TORNADOES ARE IMMINENT OR OCCURRING IN THE AREA. LARGE HAIL, DAMAGING WINDS AND HEAVY RAINFALL MAY ALSO ACCOMPANY THESE STORMS. a very active night along the TCH indeed. hopefully sue johanson has her toys secured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 a very active night along the TCH indeed. hopefully sue johanson has her toys secured. Emergency Management Ontario hasn't triggered the emergency alert system yet. Going on 15 minutes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek30 Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Eventful day here in southern Manitoba. Had a supercell blow up right over town late in the afternoon. Saw quarter sized hail, strong wind gusts, and very heavy rain. Some real close CG lightning, too. As far as I know, there have been no confirmed reports of tornadoes here. There have been a couple softball sized hail reports, though. Car windows knocked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Possible tornado also moving towards Scottsbluff, Nebraska. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 EMO triggers the emergency alert system 23 minutes after the tornado warning is issued July 04, 2011 7:41 PM THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO HAS ISSUED A RED ALERT DUE TO A TORNADO WARNING IN NORTHWESTERN ONTARIO. Emergency Situation: Environment Canada has issued a Tornado Warning for the communities of KENORA, GRASSY NARROWS and WHITEDOG. Recommended Actions: Emergency Management Ontario recommends that persons in the area described above IMMEDIATELY shelter. Everyone in this area should immediately move indoors, and away from doors and windows, preferably into a basement area if that is possible. Do not pick up family members from schools, daycares and institutions such as hospitals and nursing homes. Plans are in place to protect them. People currently outside this area are advised not to enter this area until further notice. If it is safe to do so, pets and livestock should be removed quickly from outside. Do not call 911 for information about this emergency. This Red Alert will end at 2030EDT/1930CDT unless a further extension is requested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 I thought a red alert was essentially equivalent to a tornado emergency in the states... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 I thought a red alert was essentially equivalent to a tornado emergency in the states... I don't understand the red alert system at all when it comes to weather warnings. You have Environment Canada who issue a tornado warning with vital and urgent need to know immediately info that the tornado will cross Kenora between 625pm and 645pm... then that warning is not broadcast to the public. Then, EMO steps at some point, 23 minutes after the warning is issued tonight, and puts out an hour long, sometimes multiple hours long, warning for an area the size of New Hampshire, as in tonights example, saying a tornado warning is in effect and to stay out of the area. They don't even send out the EC tornado warning text, or do they even realize the tornado passed Kenora 10 minutes ago as per what the EC warning indicates. Sometimes I don't understand Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 It says on several websites that E. Canada can upgrade the tornado warning to a red alert if strong/violent tornadoes are possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 It says on several websites that E. Canada can upgrade the tornado warning to a red alert if strong/violent tornadoes are possible. The tornado warning article on Wikipedia says EMO may issue red alerts for tornado warnings in Ontario in the tornado emergency segment, it's misleading. EMO issues red alerts for all tornado warnings in Ontario. The red alert system is just the emergency alert system that was launched after the August 20 2009 tornado outbreak in the Greater Toronto Area. It's not really an emergency alert system since participation is voluntary and I think only two media outlets in Ontario actually broadcast the messages- CHCH Hamilton and some station in Cochrane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 One day this confusion is going to cost lives, i can just see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 One day this confusion is going to cost lives, i can just see it. Exactly. How do these emergency managers and meteorologists actually think this system is sound and in working order ready for a real tornado emergency situation. There are so many things wrong with how Canada deals with tornadoes I don't even want to start listing them. From experience if you aren't sitting on Environment Canada's website to see a tornado warning has just been issued- if one is even issued at all- your only warning will be when the tornado arrives at your doorstep. I can't say it's the same in other provinces, and not all WFO's even issue tornado warnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Gorgeous example of convection anchoring itself along preferred slope induced boundaries across the Black Hills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Are you storm chasing today Cmichweather?? You better be considering DMC is sitting right on GFK's doorstep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmichweather Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Are you storm chasing today Cmichweather?? You better be considering DMC is sitting right on GFK's doorstep. LOL no, my GF won't let me i'm just watching the towers from my window. We are just about to head downtown for the fireworks. That storm to my east is looking pretty interesting right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 LOL no, my GF won't let me i'm just watching the towers from my window. We are just about to head downtown for the fireworks. That storm to my east is looking pretty interesting right now. Fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek30 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 LOL no, my GF won't let me i'm just watching the towers from my window. We are just about to head downtown for the fireworks. That storm to my east is looking pretty interesting right now. Tell her the fireworks display will be much better to your east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Tornado warned storm heading towards Fargo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricaneman Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 It looks like a pretty good size outbreak going on from Nebraska to Manitoba, some of the tornados are violent which I hope there is no significant loss of life or property Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 The Windsor Star has several photos up of eerie orange and yellow skies across Essex County from July 2 http://www.windsorstar.com/Star+Reader+Storm+Photos/5045191/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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