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LOL ... right... like, no way in that set up, 18z later on was anything but down like an easy date with a look like that -

That actually is surprising there ... I'm going to go to the NCEP Library site and see what was happening synoptically that day. I really am strained to recall a day that mild toward mid Novie that year, between Acton and UML where I was boppin' around back in those days. I wonder if that some some bootleg deal where their elevation might have got above a dammed layer... I mean, ORH is actually pretty far S in the state so it may have been cooler along Rt 2 that/NE Mass ... Interesting - I am definitely sure that once we got snow on the ground at school, we did not see bare ground again until that thaw later on at the end of January, '96. Maybe the snow/sleet 3-5" deal was on the 13th lol

good summary statement there ...especially 'eerily prophetic' I was attempting to create that haunt by describing the weird way in which the ice on the shade side of the canal/water duct ( which is 60' high at the hydro) was somehow resistent to melt in late Octoer/early November...despite being 50 F afternoons. Rivulets froze by night into icicles and glaze in the 22 F mornings. I think it was the dry air ...really. Those air masses set up spectacular radiation overnights, and as we knows ... 50/low dp is not as destructive to frozen water as 50/50 ... probably allowed the ice to hold on... See, what people don't understand is the shear scale and degree of dork that is me. I notice shit like that... and you're right really - some my look at it and 'feel' ominous in the settting, "why am I looking ice there at this time of year" - boom

You and me both, then ... I don't mind snow early on, and lots of it. Although Halloween and in fact October in general, no. The 1995 autumn was my 'season of perfection,' .. the equivalent of the spirit of your dreams coming back to tell you they were wrong about you, and how they regret casting you asunder, and what they would do if it meant being able to lose themselves in your arms. Lol October was oddly mild, but we kept getting these ultra dry air masses between the 15th and Halloween ( ~). With long nights and still air, the UML campus yellowed broad -leafed maples would frost-load and rain leaves. I remember stopping to observe this .. 8 am one morning as the sun cut through the steam plume from respiration. The bustle of the campus was still minimal enough that in the moment, once could distinctly hear them as they clipped from elevation, filtered down through the branches and other leaves to make contact with the Earth beneath. And you could tell it was specific to that morning's deposition because the layer upon the ground was yellow with pop, partially obscuring the previous like they were old banana peals. It was chilly in the moment... despite the warm month, probably last of the Pinatubo winters ensuing.. But it may have been 28 F, headed for 54 that afternoon. Early November arrives with more like hard freezes. I cannot recall if they were more of just those super radiational cooling nocturnals, or if it was CAA...probably both. I remember there was modest -NAO ( at least ) tendencies over the western limb (NE Canada) early that year, as the Seniors were talking about it within earshot when in the Lab at some point. I should go back and look up the EPO - though I'm not sure the monitoring of that index, if even it's domain, was really very accessible then - probably is via reanalysis. Anyway, water rivulets that squeezed around the granite blocks that were used to construct the Pawtucket canal above the Merrimack River that bifurcates North and South Campuses, was beginning to freeze - similar to the icefalls you see along escarped rock formations around regional highways. I thought it was very early for that... One day in particular, it pm and the sun was setting, and as I was ambling back across the bridge, I noticed that some ice still cleaned to that stone fascia. That didn't melt? I thought. This was all before the snows came in, nice and dreamy early a week later. And since in the years since, I'd never seen that ice occur ... it's like a hidden metric. In any case, somewhere between the 8th and 15th, we had 3-5" of snow/sleet over the Merrimack Valley. CT missed out... In fact, I think it was N of the Pike. But, that cold season advanced early, like an unstoppable Military advance. Every successive event repositioned a non-retreating winter front farther S, and once on the other side ... you let go because you weren't going back. It just got colder... and colder ... and we got several nickle-scaled events. But a bona fide snow pack by Thanks Giving. The modelling at that time was setting up cyclic snow threats - think more primitive web graphics and the 'MRF' and ECMWF available as the early model cinema ... Unysis was one such web site to go to. I wonder if that source even still exists. Despite the primitive early graphics, this was a helluva way advantage over dialing up the DIFAX charts. Oh man - you guys born since have no idea how luxurious your experience is... December arrives ... we had like 15" as a real stratafying snow pack by the 10th, with temperatures equal to the numerical date. I remember walking to WHDH to meet one of the on-camera greats, and having to use pedestrian cleave-through snowbanks after parking the car around the corner from Government Center in downtown Boston. I mean that may be the last time urban Boston and perhaps eastern SNE had a cold anomaly, that early, so extreme - combing with snow no less. The snow still on the sidewalk squealed under foot. It only Dec 10, and we were by then almost a month into weather that by late January was anomalously winter like. Another storm... after which, out around Acton, our snow pack was nearing 20" ...the snow in fact began to settle before melting. I cannot recall exactly what happened between Xmas and NY that year... but the cold didn't relent, and by December 28th I specifically remember, ...what would become known as the great "Megalopolis Blizzard" was beginning to loom at the model's extended range boundary. First that beast was supposed to be mainly S of NYC... but as the days ticked off, the models correct 50 miles N ... and eventually, it did finally clip us here. There was one more storm after that, and the snow total in the yard was a resting 32" deep. I'd never seen that before... not since perhaps the "Cleveland Superbomb" of 1978, January. And the aspect about that was that it all came from nickle-dime events. There was the MB storm mentioned above - but that was really an outlier. The pattern was delivering a steady diet. I actually didn't care much for the end of that winter, that year. We had a thaw that jaw dropped for its ability to erode back that enormous glacier I thought in my primitive environmental awareses years, was all but indestructible. Wrong. Two.5 Minnesota translating cyclones later and we were down to field ponds and snow banks rollin' off steam. I would have fine with that being the final chapter and a hugely early spring that year .. But, winter obtruded back in ... I guess for the fun of getting that year's seasonal snow totals to historic numbers, did have its place.

I'm getting an impression about this last summer (... a season that's really still alive and well despite all intents and purposes to construct observations to the contrary - ) We have been way above normal rainfall. But the distribution has been kindly parsed out ... spaced out enough to achieve a a kind of hydro, 'steady state' in uptake vs release of the land. It's really been like a normal frequency, just dumping huge amounts at those intervals. Even Ida's outlier event, if we remove the huge deposition numbers in water, there's nothing particularly unique about merely observing a big, dead/dying Gulf whirl and smear slowly rotating around the NW periphery of a WAR-like pattern in late August. In short, it's been about events just being hugely seeded. Bloviating opinion: This is/was a Global Warming summer incarnate. Climate modeling science has suggested for decades that among the many varied aspects of the total impact/observation spectrum, would in fact be increasing gaseous water vapor --> PWAT extremes --> event-centric +rain results. DPs were higher than normal this year ... so has been the rain. June was a fantastically warm month. However ( just off the top of one's mind) perhaps > 50% by virtue of having nocturnal, elevated temperatures more so anomalous than the ensuing attached afternoons. Yes there were heat waves to frost the cake. But without those lows being some +10 on month.. that's the real story hidden beneath. That is also a repeating phenomenon noted globally, as also expanded upon in recent IPCCs publications. So, it's been a recurrent theme, anyway. This summer season appears at minimum to be a very vivid and coherent example of that phenomenon, one that probably in reality was even anomalously large relative to that. Here in New England it seems we're always getting cheated some how, some way. I wonder if there will ever occur the elusive New England super heat wave. A competitive anomaly among the pantheon of great France, Britain, Australia, eastern Europe and Siberia's arresting circumstances - speaking, relative to climate. What would that be? It would likely have to occur between late May and late July/early August. We really need the solar max 90 days between May 8 and August 8 to have a shot ... 7-day heat wave where it does this at Logan during the afternoons: 91 (Chicago is an ominous 101), then 99 102* 104** 107** 94 (weak MCS N sent interruption) 105*, phone call to Pentagon... over lows of 84 F... (* record, ** all-time ) I'm starting to wonder if it is just physically too difficult for the Terran systems of interacting geologic and atmospheric forces to actually do. Some regions just do hot(cold) better than others ... 'White Men Can't Jump' Either way, this seems like a summer that cheated to be above normal in heat, accomplished because in order to get the rain we had have the hydrostatic heights being elevated - warmed proximity to that.

Most thrilling end of the year

Man did they need that win … just like that went, too!

It's uncomfortable today .. I mean it's only 84 here but for some reason it's got less patience about it. Was going to do a long b-ride but it's too warm even for that. I hate that. Plus the wind's swirling and that has way of always being in your face and resistant - weird. And what's up with the early slam shut tropics. Not even the peak and there's nothing but Larry ... I guess that counts, but there's nothing coming. It's like hitting a lull during the peak....

Interesting... I mean I don't disagree here in general re the odd directive and the questions it arises. I don't know if these are evidences that they're not taking it seriously ... as much as they are either: A, they simply don't care what that means ( and there are discrete reasons for this plausibility) for the future. B, they have some non-disclosed reclamation technology that they are using (or soon intend to) in concert, that will greatly reduce the CO2 ... CO emissions; maybe they are just not telling the world ( and there are reason(s) to see that as plausible, too ) they are developing(ed). B is a bit of stretch ..but not impossible. It is within technological grasp to scrub exhaust. It's just that we are not used ( lol, perhaps ) to such notions in our western-based economies. It only seems insurmountable. Common narrative has truth, "obsticular" interests with lots of power block both .. usually in insidious indirect influences ... We sort of see it out here ( waving hands..) but is an illusion of infeasibility that is institutionally just accepted. In fact, no fossil combustion is ultimately necessary. 0. But if we must ... we can't be limited in how to do so while minimizing the risks. It's really... you know, morality and innovation did not evolve with the other in mind. Broad brushed statement but it's true. Put another way, our species has mechanized nature using the immense energy stored in fossil fuels, by wit of the most power biological invention this world has ever evolved: the human brain. ... But that's ALL we did - It seems now here at the threshold of hell-to-pay, innovation has to do its bidding or [ enter mushroom cloud ]. They could be ahead of tech curve/that realization and we just don't know it. A is troubling.. .They don't have the best track record in human rights/ interests... They seem to value life in a different way - almost like army ants creating drowning bridges so that the other million solders can cross a flooded stream or obstacle. Not exactly, but metaphors seldom are. They are also more clearly and evidentiary quite insular when it comes to philosophies, and I don't believe they have much compunctions in diplomacy when it comes to feeding foreign legions precisely what those reps need to hear to stave off reproach. Meanwhile, they are building islands in strategic shipping routes of seas and launching projectiles ... high tech style ( 2017 ) at one of their own defunct satellites, successfully obliterating them into orbiting shrapnel plumes for the world to see ... It's not impugning the practice, per se - we do it. We don't ask. But demonstration is always a very affecting means to deliver a message when it comes to international brinkmanship. I just almost think they are preparing sometimes, just in case, for if/when the wave the 'population correction' so to speak comes, whether in a single cataclysm, or a cocktail of events that forces the hand of Humanity. They are the ultimate "Doom's Day Preppers" And when it all shakes out, they will be self contained, militarily saddled with the wherewithal to keep it that way, until the death settles it all.

thanks Don - I'm grateful for it, but honestly? sometimes I wonder. If one can string together lengthier than a "twit's" coherent sentences ... one has a decent shot. "In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is surely king" Add stupefying of society into e-zombies to the example-list of innovation leading inexorably to it's own extinction. Maybe that's more like "irony" than c-22. Convenience addled nimrods masquerading as real intelligence, gray matter isn't myelinating new neuro pathways like it once needed to, when people had to use their brains and language to survive. 'Course, ...I'm being a little hyperbolic at the moment - haha

Yeah.... sorry - it's probably no revelation that I like to write. Lol.. didn't mean to sermon. It may seem bunnish but I do think a population correction is coming. You know, if it's not one way ...it'll be the other. I like the Gaia-Gozer thing.. cool But, for one obvious trite reason, 'nothing last forever in a universe that is ultimately bounded by finality' ...Obviously, it's a matter of 'when' and for what reason - to aspects that are entirely subjective in relationship. Heh. I actually am a published Sci Fi author as of 1 year ago. So glazing eyes over and giving people headaches is something I have a keen skill - haha. Anyway, that right up started a simple reply to someone else over the state of the Arctic - as it pertains to the sea ice and so forth. 90% of it, and this exchange since, probably should be in that "Thoughts on ..." thread instead.

Ha hahaha... now we know why Jerry moved to the Bay Area looking at that totally fair layout - To then in turn 1978 the next year with him safely out there where he could experience the full fury of New England ... seals the intent and purposes of God.

rght, then this ...

Actually ... that one I think was a positive bust for the DCA-PHL corridor.

I mean can't you just see it there? haha.. That image just wants to write that - 10 pm 'teaser' by a young Bruce Schwoegler, " Twelve inches of snow with heavy blowing and drifting as winter storm warning with blizzard conditions set to unfold during the morning hours, furthering details at 11 -" 9 am, that satellite image.

Way OT but ... does anyone know? This is the famed PD storm of 1979 ... Was that ( say ...) forecasted originally to be a huge blizzard in SNE ? Just looking at this picture seems to howl a story-line of bust that must have been so - it just looks like getting screwed!

Right riiight, and both then and now were in solar minimums with a positive flux in UFO hysteria lol j/k

Yeah ... that's the whole discussion point - the frequency of dramatic short duration corrections. But re 1979 ... did it produce the same amount in areal coverage of snow? Were the ambient event temperatures comparable? There's some other attributes that might have made that less impressive, for one... hitting 80s in October, albeit rare, is even more strange in November, which is when that happened last year. And the warmth lasted was a week long - if that adds. But also, the duration was longer in 1979 between that occurrence of snow and the ensuing warm up. The point is short duration turn around, so comparing those two cases, last year was faster, but also ... more extreme ( perhaps) when including climate. Problem I can see right off the bat in comparing these two events is that the slope of seasonal change is like the free fall on a roller coast ride between Oct 1 and and Thanks Giggedy, such that 2 or 3 weeks makes a bigger difference in comparing which event might "win" the extreme correction distinction LOL. ... Either event was amazing, and 1979 certainly created it's own buzz for snow... then if it was 80s 10 days later etc etc... But what about the 1987 Capital District event in October that year. May as well throw that one in the ring and make this an all-out WWF finale... I can't recall if that was coupled up with excessive warmth right away or not.

Same forces in of lacking supplies appears to permeate an effect throughout all economics. One problem, there's no one available to purchase. But also, "seller" and "greed" tend to be compatible signs on the economic zodiac chart and thus makes it hard for purchasing powers to meet their costs....blah blah... I used to get cold calls and text from ...whomever or whatever outfit cleaved my phone number illegally out of whatever database ( heh ..), asking me to buy my house, as is, no questions ask, flat rate ...take money and walk. Those calls have suddenly stopped in the last 3 to 6 months. Others have expressed getting these calls. I wonder if they've also seen their frequencies suddenly fade as of late. These were 'home flippers' - most likely - targeting a prime market for that particular practice, here in Ayer. The "affluence ring" moving west of Metro through the 1980s and 1990s, has propagated outside of I-495 ( ~ ), now making through these townships between I-91 and 495. Ayer being one of them. This 'free money speculation wave' has really quite suddenly reevaluated the region substantially. I haven't Zilla'ed my own home/property value, per se, but it's true... 30 to even 50% over the market valuations from just 10 years ago has us wondering if we've won lotteries. That's HUGE... free money. But, why this appeals to developers and flippers is because going from a modestly economically depressed generational/blue -collar setting, into one with draw and appeal power ( for whatever forces ultimately drives speculation aside ...) means ( to them ..) there is a crop ( likely ..) of outstanding refinanced and/or troublesome mortgages. Natural assumption, people might want/need help in getting out of those obligations. Throw 200K at 'em, resident cleans out... flipper comes in, resells for double appreciation: edifice upgrade + the appreciation bestowed upon the region by said serendipitous speculation wave. It's a win -win really. There are those that want out; kissing those that give that means to do so, the kisser than makes 100% profit. I mean there are some places ... rumor has it, that were previously 200K closing at 480 and shit. man - So, I'm rambling subject matter "...yeah, every knows how this works" - but that's not my point. The calls have slowed and in fact, I haven't gotten one in 2 months now after a steady died. The problem is, it is going to cost too much to fixer-up and resell, or build new. Supply issues appear to styming matters?

Fits the lower priority narrative that's seems to get buried in the din of CC attributed hurricanes and wild fires... regarding shorter or nested duration "whip lashing" affects ... It's a facet I often sense is forgotten. Like last year's more extreme/obvious example of this: 4-6" snow on October 30 ... a week later it's in the 80s. It seems like - perhaps provably even... - 50 years ago, it's a hard freeze and packing pellets in the air later that afternoon and a 72/50 bath a week later, and everyone's all abuzz at 'how dramatic was the change' ... Nowadays ... 6" of snow --> 84

Global, in the title "Global Warming" means the entire globe - just to be clear. Maybe you mean relative to some shorter time scale ... perhaps one that is native to just this present era ? Just thinking about that ... The d(x)/dt terms are more crucial in identifying the reality of systemic modality. Not the x terms. X scalar values are but a 'snap shot' of present state. LOL, the GW title doesn't say ... "Global WARM" ...it says global warmING. 'Ing' means change, and change obviously requires time. The Arctic is "torching" - subjective term anyway ..ugh. It's warmer than normal, and increasing, even relative to present era. The 30-year mean temperatures are rising in the Arctic domain, and that time span is the standardization by the Science ambit, to mean present era - I suppose if we scale an observation interval down to just a week or something, maybe ? - but at that scale, there's no real practical use for climate studies, because vagarious noise, 'in the weeds' of momentary events, become the visible horizon. Beyond that horizon, larger damning truths cannot be seen. Lengthy aside, why the 30-years ..? I guess to have some kind of conventional order in the science of that matter. 'Getting sort of philosophical here but, there are no real 'boundaries' ... Nature and reality is about logarithmic emergence or decay rates of change. Outside or internal forces become sufficient to modulate a given system: the imposing force may be so weak it takes Millennia to observe change; or, so overwhelming that the changes manifest very quickly. In climate, we may express in urgency, "Global Warming is happening at a startlingly fast rate," but ... that is in deference to the typical rate of change for climate systems, overall. They tend to not really be observable down at the almost instant geological time-span of a single human life, and if they are, something huge is motivating change. Even though ... we're still talking about decades. Basically, there needs to be a kind of instruction manual in how to interpret climate change, and there definitely needed a better PR handling all along. I have been arguing this for years, one of the fundamental biggest hurdle in the climate awareness space, is that there is no real sophistication, frankly 'intelligentsia' in the PR/dissemination of the scientific findings. It's gotten better over the decade(s), but still needs work. It was egregiously indelicate and tactlessly handled when the findings could only do one thing, impugn a global machinery that 90% of the population had become inextricably dependent upon, generation's deep. Between the head-realm of utter untenable "esoterium" of the science, to ...well, everyone else, its pith needed to be winnowed down to a prose that is both accessible, but 'undeniable' being crucial. What we got, instead, were dire headlines and/or liberalism rank involving moral damnation, cynicism and shame - that was the original framework: excoriation in multi facet ways, attacked the Industrial world's foundation, while offering no alternatives. What they did, rather, was only to alienate themselves from the discussion with their artless approach. I almost consider the climate change crisis as a failure of National and Global Security ... It is becoming clear, there is going to be a huge population correction, either by choice ... or force ( it's like "Gaia" is giving Humanity a choice like "Gozer" in Ghost Busters: "Choose .. Choose the form of the destructor") ... But, humor and metaphor aside, the lack of vision of Nat/Global security et al, in taking the subject seriously decades ago - it's hard to know where the origin of that incredulity was. But, you better believe, Climate Change IS not only a National Security matter at this point, it is in fact a World order event. Intuitively, a goodly amount of it was/is probably related to human limitation? Particularly when facing issues where an "incalculable specter" is completely speculative, humans won't typically register significance. They'll be polite, nodding, "Yeah, it's pretty dire, huh." But no sooner when the source of warning fades away from ear-shot, "...Heh, another one of those -". Compounding further, complacency will replace any amount of immediate arousal of urgency that successfully elicits. Because... 20 years later, no one's life has changed at the rate of melting ice - 'how bad can it be?' Enters the other problem with advocating the gravity of climate change - no one actually feels the weight. In those earlier eras it had no natural, corporeal advocates ... which is to say, those that appeal to the physical senses. You could not really taste it. Nor touch, hear, or smell it. Most important of all, you could not really see it - the most important sense to the human psyche, per all science of neurology and neuroplasticity needed to motivate awareness. Ha, just being droll. Very recently that has been changing. The sight of wild fires and red skies, and smelling their smoke thousands of miles away on the other sides of total continental spaces ...is a little arresting. Pandemic pestilence, to hurricane ravaged coastal regions ... where the atmosphere is handing out Cat 5 tropical cyclones like Pez. Rats pouring out of urban substrata, up stairwells, driven to high ground as flood waters attempt to float cities away ... etc. These will at last appeal the senses. ..And suddenly, media begins to represent life. A zeitgeist of urgency is at last aroused. This is not a accidental cultural modality - it is because climate change is finally be advocated. But during the first 30 .. 50 years of the denial arc of climate change's disaster novel, these evidences were not available to bus stop transience, water coolers in offices, to policy makers and society sculptors; and it will never be available to the sensibility of corporate leading sociopaths. Beyond that limitations, society moves and security-type agencies were never truly connected to, or giving enough weight ( in their on-going practicum ) to the science community. They were always in the room, as a bottom priority. I mean, we've all seen the trope in Hollywood's disaster cinema genre. The Joint Chiefs and higher ranking brass in closed conference room of heated exchanges over the impending doom. A quite mascot dork in wire-rimmed glasses, sits comported in self, shy, afraid, apprehensive socially in that setting to dare express the reality troubling this mere representative of the scientific consortium: despite all preset egos and conceits, you're all going to die. Nothing you guys say or do matters, if your are removed from the equation, is his/her internal monologue repeating like a haunted calling. Climate change, left to its own devices, means extinction. How does the dork raise his/her hand amid that specter and pomp, what is really an intractable circumstance, when limitations in human evolution, which blocks urgency unless it is 'sensed' is purely contemplative, and the brass in that setting can see no further. Yet, what they can hear of and see demonstrate foreign sovereignties pointing their mass destruction... etc, instead. Ha ha, you know the fastest climate change there is, is a hapless planet whose hosting gravitational binding star happens to be only say ... 100 light years away from an adjacent ticking Super Nova. The instant that star Nova's, they have 100 years before they suffer "instant climate change" A time in which they have no idea that it's happened, only that it can - sound familiar? We are in our 100 hours - The reason I'm contemplating aloud is because I have a long standing concern about the Darwinian catch-22 of our species - perhaps ... a philosophical digression into another field: The Fermian Paradox. ...which I wont get into at depth. To paraphrase ( perhaps sloppily), it boils down to a basic contention: 'If the cosmos teems with intelligent life, where are they all?' Now ...some aspect of that may be limited to human perception of design. What I mean there is, we perceive and think of telescopes and electromagnetism as means to communicate across grand distances. But, this may be a limited scope, one biased because ... that's the way we do it. However, alien technologies may not have evolved, or necessarily needed to do so in the same ways and means, that we precisely do. Yet, they are equally ... or more importantly, are vastly more advanced in their capacity to manipulate their environments. The idea here is, whether by our means or theirs, Stage 0 to early Stage 1 civilizations, usually don't manipulate for the better - they tend to blow them selves to kingdom-come before they become apart of any bustling interstellar thoroughfare Sci-Fi fantasy like that of Star Trek. ... Perhaps, too few to qualify a description of 'traffic'. We don't even see or detect the echo off their graves. ...This is a Pandora's box of paradoxical musing for a joint, Southern Comfort, and mild night around a campfire. The self-annihilation model is the most, perhaps intuitive, popular explanation for the Paradox question. But, I see us as a species where Darwinian modes endowed us with the gift of ingenuity and problem solving skills, so capable of engineering wonders that it unwittingly invents its own demise. At least in one case - should that prevail - this climate debacle may be how that all happens - at least for us. And it sucks! Not just because ...well, it means our death for one easy reason. But, it's like watching Grady Little from the living room in the 2004 ALCS against the Yankees. It's the bottom of the 7th inning. The Red Sox are up 5 to 3, in what was pretty clear to the intangibly aware, was a pivotal momentum game in that series. Pedro Martinez is/was hands down the Red Sox ace ... I'll give the guy that. But when Pedro was only 1 out, and the Yankees had guys on 1st and 2nd, it was time to go to the reliever. No - Grady signals the time out... carries his midriff to the mound, and lets Pedro decide if Pedro should come out. Of course... the Red Sox went on to lose the ALCS series. There are those of us that know we are in the 7th inning as a species against this world - and we may as well just be yelling inaudibly at an empty living room.

Oh I know - I have it muted until I see a bat leave a Sox bat, or a Sox pitcher strand runs just to catch some crowd noise but otherwise their hard on the ears.

Uh no ... I was just thinking about this - it won't change my opinion that this game was played by ( really both ) teams playing shit baseball. I mean I guess if your team gets the W ? But it was bad day for the Sox when they were up 7-1 ... Slew of bumbling errors and bad pitching and frankly TB didn't look much better. But also, the previous was supposed to be funny guess not huh

It was like the 'Count Rugen' ( Princess Bride - ) torture chamber game. "...The concept of sucking at Baseball is a century old, only here, we're not sucking Baseball ... we're sucking life. We've just sucked 5 hours of your life away. We hope to one day go as high as a whole regular season, but we really don't know what that would do to you. So, let's just begin with what we have here. And remember - this is for the Schadenfreude of the front office, so please ... be honest. How do you feel?" " ...eewwhahhahhhaaa" " Interesting - "

What a debacle Ha... feel sorry for the duped fans in that caldron of fumbles down there... 4 1/2 hours to end in clown show - it was like on purpose, just to steel 5 hours of lives