Typhoon Tip

Order to cash in on a winter storm I mean…

Yeah I noticed the split. Anyway the euros been kind of volatile in that time range. I think this run is just another peregrination along the journey towards whatever is actually going to happen… But I do think whatever is going to happen is going to feature that negative EPO. And the Canadian shield’s gonna have to answer to it in terms of being cold - how much so …again is it seasonally cold, or usually anomalous? I don’t know exactly. But either way gives us a standby status we don’t need to be exceptionally cold once we get past November 15 or whatever.

That is a weird look on the euro day 6 through 10. Exceptionally top-heavy negative -EPO/-PNA

Wow. Not one word of interest over that Dakotas blizzard.

How does somebody actually get banned?… Whatever havppen to Phineas and why/

I mean obviously people are more concerned about whether it’s snowing or not so it is what it is but all the models are of coming in here at 12 Z with some more than mere cold snap looking pattern constructs. ..deep cold transport between probably between D7 and 12

Yeah it’s for fun but I think I saw 516 thickness in cold continental conveyor that reall ultimately originates up in the Northwest Territories That would basically have us with temperatures in the 20s around the 18th of the month probably WC .. single digits or below zero given that the winds probably gusting to 40 miles an hour… Basically it has suppressed all warm hydrostats to just Texas the Gulf and Florida

man the ggem certainly doesn’t hold back any restraint for front loading

Looks like we may be heading for some impressive snow totals up there in the Dakotas… perhaps even eye-popping. I mean they’re going to be getting mangled aggregate mixed with stuck together sleet bombs …going over to powdered snow and then falling at choke intensities with winds gusting probably over 45 miles an hour for a solid 15 hours up there … Heh could easily see that being one of these attribution wet dreams. Anyway doesn’t last unusually long but looks like some unusual heavy snowfall rates for an area the country that typically has more cold and wind associated with their winter storms rather than super deep snow. Would be interesting to compare that to climo for that specific region

yeah ..he's right. That system is a needle threader - probably half -assed commits to secondary but not enough, and a primary that cuts White Plains NY to Portland ME. Marginal systems before Thanks Givings tend to end wetter/cat pawing. But could begin white... cold Novie rain! The main aspect for me though is not whether it snows - that is a bona fide synoptic winter event,whether it cuts just W like that or somehow threads under our latitude, or not. The advent is significant, particularly considering (at that time) the cold layout over the Canadian shield - not hugely anomalously deep, but a lot of integrated mass. Additionally, the ens mean and oper. versions of GFS/Euro are hefty with yet another -EPO pulsation up there... these are indicative. The correction vectors are pointed colder, not warmer for a change. I find it interesting ...this is a full/whole scale pattern change, which appears to be stable ...with west coast of N/A extending around to western Europe ending up in a stable planetary wave length scheme between D6-10 (ending) at mid latitudes... The Pacific also appears well behaved, with not a lot of suggestive/extrapolation toward changing the feed into the Alaskan sector heights. Unsure about transience ... It's been a long while since we early performed winter season - but that stability argues at least some longevity - I mean not merely one event amid a cold snap. *IF* these observations in guidance fail to actually materialize, yes. Otherwise? this is probably prologue to an early performing winter. I'd lean that way due to several more out-of-box telecons...ranging from QBO to solar to volcanism to NINA's tending to perform early... This is a spectrum of interesting convergence in telecons. Any one of which is likely meaningless, but en masse? - might just be a reason why this has materialized.

12z GFS is a buzz kill... man. I rather liked the subtle split flow evidenced by prior cycles...leaving some meandering disturbances in the S to zygote storms. This 12z run is attempting to transition from ...whatever this screwy thing is, directly into a compressed N-stream storm suppressor pattern. Heh. I dread this in January actually... if perhaps a warmer version of it. But for now, hoping that's just the GFS being the GFS at D6-11 ...

by the 20th... ( not a condescension wink - just in deference to last week)

Writing a risk assessment is giving fits this week .. jesus christ. I mean, there's measurable impacts, but also intangibles here, due to acclimation concerns. Civility, steeped in complacency from weeks of non-impact, warmer than normal abandon ... gets hit by hemispheric anchored winter Week-2. Ranging to the Energy markets - how to impress to them that meters are about to spin fast enough to drill holes through the homes they're attached to. But that's also the rub because ... this pattern that arrives on the heel of next weekend's ?near miss tropics? ( I mean if that were not enough?!), but sure bet frontal wind/squall whip, could either bring impact cold, or just seasonal cold. Which? Either way, the abruptness is a uniquely interesting aspect in itself. Typically, we don't go from 80F ( or 70 for that matter)...directly to cryo supportive air masses. This is attempting to do so... Usually, there is an interceding step in there. You know? Like, it goes from continental whack-job heat, to an intermediate half way for a couple days or even a week... then, a deeper polar front comes in... two days later, first snow. This is attempting to go from 77 to 42... 30s in the high country, immediately. In a pattern that is rife with clipper snow shots. I mean, lots of vectors of uncertainty going on in all that 'violence' as you say.

Be that as he may … he’s on point and likely correct with that.

I know - I just told him that I didn't think he was necessarily denying anything. I just extended that thought a bit and apparently it was bad timing. oops. sorry.

No argument actually... I was thinking about the 'high end' aspect entirely when I said that. I'm aware that our averages are keeping pace even exceeding some other regions. However, I feel pretty strongly that can be explained by air mass thermodynamics. I've also mused at times in the past that nighttime lows, ...sort of like cheating us in a way lol, are the ballast of that change. It's hard to dump enough solar energy, by day, into a 42 deg N latitude even in early July, when the DPs are over 70... I mean you said so yourself with the 1930s example..etc. Throw in that we probably surplus cloud production and definitely collect a continent's worth of exhaust of other particulate gunk... and we end up more ozone rich with loftier night temperatures. It just may be the way we express CC locally... interesting. Also I am inclined to think some of New England's warming fast aspect might have something to do with it having more room to actually warm within. Similar, though a vast microcosm, to what is taking place in the arctic.. But that's speculative.

Wow, that 12z Euro makes it even warmer next weekend? Or fuggin shittin us! I mean, the sun will do what the clouds dictate at this time of year, but that is if anything a cleaner, broader 850 mb layout... 14.5C everywhere on a W wind ... well, sometimes color coding for nursery school is apropos ... And the funny thing is, we still are not even pushing off the mid month flip, either. That's a cold witch's tit D8+!

Calm down... I was speaking to the denier space - not you specifically. The deniers masquerade as skepticism but are nothing more than denying truth and reality. I''m not not merely believing what I want though? The beauty of science is ... .it is true whether one wants to believe it or not.

There are two answers that apply to this. 1 Yes ...how? it's mathematically proven that warm air holds more water vapor. As the planetary atmosphere has warmed over the last 30 years, vapor content has been measured to be more. That's proving the math prediction. But that is interesting in the vicinity of mechanisms that cause precipitation. Snow and rain results get heavier. And that is true in winter too - one has to understand, that winter storm snowfall is happening because there is an injection from a warm/humid source. If that source has more water, it will snow more. Viola! bigger winters/ storms. 2 climate change is not happening along a linear trajectory. What that means is... it's been accelerating. Crude model: if you have 2 heat waves during year one, you'll get 4 during year five ... 8 during year 10. That's just an example, mind you, of the acceleration. In real life, it is what ever it is, but it is not linear. That acceleration, makes it bad for a lot of obvious reasons. 1970s do not apply, because it's apples and oranges due to the being prior to a lot of the curved upward trajectory. When I hear deniers... try to supply that narrative, it irks me that it doesn't come off as skepticism. It sounds tactically divisive because the word choice and turn of phrase is clearly avoidance. That masquerades as skepticism. The current paradigm of humanity is doomed. What ever emerges on the other side will be enlightened and better off, or stopped existing.

Funny you say that... I use to think that it was ironic how the U.S., being like a # 1, 2 or 3 C02 footprint, isn't getting the big time SD heat bombs. Then the Pac NW happened. Still, far more frequently in Australia ...France and UK... Really haven't actually happened here over SE Canada and N of the MA. Some how we're being protected, and perhaps "enabled" ( a little) in the complacency that results when it's always news affecting somewhere else. I'm sure that'll foster some arguers ... I don't think it's been 106 at Logan for 4 days.. a two day break, before doing again another 3 days. Some truly ER filling statistical death heat. Kind of fun dystopian sci-fi idea of mine is that Gaia is doing a toad in the boiling water technique to rid its self of the scourge species. Maybe another metaphor, turning up the oven dial to clean - what we think of as a holocaust of climate is actually a purification process.

yesterday ...I would have said I am not surprised by today, given that synoptic overview at the time. This morning? no way. Looked like a gunk warm sector... I was thinking 70/64 - crazy enough as that is. I did not think about the DP yesterday at all. I had 2020 on the brain. oops - But this is still doing it? wtf. It's 70f'um7 here at 62. The sun is passed zenith so probably we're done .. I'm surprised we did this at this DP. I have seen it 70/70 with southerly gales, but it was swept rains and white roar through the trees out ahead of a pattern changing cold front. Lot of those in the aughts. I have never seen skirt CU with modest towers leaning with sun and nearing 80/60, on Novie 5. And to think tomorrow is no different. I'm astonished.

77/61 hopefully this happens in April for f's sake

see this is how CC expresses itself here in New England. we'd don't get the +4 SD heat events in June -August, like they have in the Pac NW, Europe or Australia's January... we get it between now and Christmas

No kidding ? wow. how did they get past the 2020 5 days of 80... heh

We might ... for a day .. day and half, but in case anyone's wondering it's not likely to be like this. Ironically, this ridge aloft is actually the penultimate - the larger planetary wave expression isn't until next week. However, the N-stream is activating across the Canadian shield, and it's confluent with what's going on.. particularly aft of this wave lifting up into Ontario later tomorrow. Likely to create an over top elephant's ass ...lobing a cheek's worth of high pressure N, it sets down over everywhere east of Chicago. So ironically it won't be as warm despite the spatial layout at mid and upper levels. When that ridging rolls out the entire mode over the hemisphere is different. Will and I were tongue-in-cheek speculating there may be a winter -like event ( talkin' mid month) around then, but it's not too far fetched - enter tl;dr reasons why here: ...