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8” here and its still coming down pretty good.

Very heavy tree stickage with wet dendrites and not much wind. Radar has an interesting layered cellular pattern, like a checker-board from waves intersecting at right angles.

Okay. I brought that up. I don't think the purpose of winter storm warning is exactly the same as a tornado or severe thunderstorm warning. The threat isn't something so imminent that people need to be suddenly interrupted with whatever they are doing to be alerted. Yes, people will probably find out a storm is coming via hearsay or social media, but it's still good to have an official source that you can rely on for consistent wording. That is where NWS warnings are useful.

As much as people here take the piss out of NWS offices, I can't imagine relying on social media where people constantly spread hype and BS, whether knowingly or unknowingly. On a lot of platforms there's a monetary incentive to hype every event for clicks. Also, the general public is much stupider than you think. lol.

A snowstorm in Dallas is like a thunderstorm in Seattle. It's only noteworthy because it doesn't happen very often.

I don't mind *calm* bitter cold with a decent snowpack ( wind sucks tho ), but I concur with the clouds and 38-44 crap. It makes it really hard to want to get out of bed.

I remember December 2000. There was 60" here in that one month, and most of it was synoptic as opposed to lake effect. There was snow on the ground starting in the middle of November, and it didn't melt. The pack settled to a 12" glacier by the New Year, but it didn't fully melt until there was finally a major thaw in January. The rest of the winter was boring, but late 2000 was way better late 2022. There was one 20+" LE event, but the water content was about the same as the 6-9" slop that hit I-69 area yesterday. It melted so fast and there was nothing to follow it up.

It's pretty much over here. The first hour was grains and pingers that didn't accumulate to anything, then 90 minutes of fatties that accumulated to a little over 2". Now it's just spitting little grains again.

I don't think I will get more than 2-3" here. There's sleet mixing in again and the weenie band is shifting SE.

There was some sleet on the outer edge when it started here. I think the sharp back edge is going to move back SE soon, but it's fun at the moment with big flakes and a rumble of thunder.

Outer weenie band just produced a nice rumble of thunder here. The flakes are the biggest I've seen since the November lake effect storm ( which also had a thunder clap ).

Ridiculously sharp edge creeping ever so close. Flurries right now, but could rip when the returns aloft finally reach the surface. I'll settle for 4" of slop.

Would have ceased yesterday if I had my way. It looks like my snow magnet was cheap Amazon crap. Need to up my game.

Jan-Feb 2014 had something for everyone in Michigan. Clippers and LES bonanzas that didn't immediately melt away, and a Detroit big dog as well. The ultimate depth weenie year.

It just seems that Chicago and Detroit are usually in completely different storm track lanes. Usually if Chicago gets clobbered, somewhere in SW MI will also cash in. The exact bullseye depends on the track of course.

Miss south stank?

SW MI folks are usually allied with N IL folks. Except for the weird zonal track systems. My hope is the system is a bit less thread-the-needle than modelled QPF. There usually is more than one weenie band.

I was not okay when the ECMWF caved SE. Hoping for the NAM to verify is like pissing in the wind.

Did anyone seriously buy the NAM? Still time for the others to edge NW. Keeping hope alive.

I like it better when the amped solutions are nailing me, not Green Bay. Much better than having to wish for a weaker system to avoid rain / mixed-garbage. The snow magnets are out.

Time for Me and Alek to get the old snow magnet out. Same line with this orientation.

Kind of the classic theoretical La Niña winter now in February. Very active polar jet with lots of storm opportunities, but also lots of northwest cutters. January was kind of counter to this though with that unending Pacific hose -> boring weather east of Rockies pattern.

If the system ends up occluding before it reaches the Great Lakes, like you alluded to before, the more pronounced dry slot would make the time frame for mixed-precip too short for much ice accretion. Don't really need another scenario like the previous two systems. Most likely scenarios would be heavy but brief mixed-bag changing to drizzle, or a snowstorm.

More glaze from this than the last one. It was falling from the trees pretty good when it warmed above freezing.

2” of sleet. Very small amount of ice from drizzle.