RogueWaves

Some 6-7" totals close to GR. Yet another synoptic storm miscue. They have said they prefer forecasting LES events because it's more straightforward - cold wind blows over warm lake = snow Sorry. I do NOT miss Wayne county winters. Wintry paradise this evening up here. Maybe Monday evening will deliver? SEMI's been known to get some of their best thumps as it's about to warm up.

Sort of seems like that right? ENSO background (or expected) and that's it. While the precip screams Nina, I think they tinker more with temps.

Didn't that happen a few days before the infamous Chicago bliz of '67? Even had a TOR in WI iirc

Crazy that on the opposite corner of The Mitt I was living the snowiest non-stop winter of my life with 220+ inches in mby. I don't think I travelled downstate that season because we hosted holiday gatherings. I never knew of the contrast. Oh, and Traverse mostly got shafted by the LES event in December that literally buried The Sault, or it could've been even more insane.

And I thought Feb 2015 was cold

I remember the early Feb sunshine and warmth (with snow piles yet). It suddenly felt like being let out of arctic jail. Had news route back then and had to be out in it every day for weeks on end. Good thing I was young and didn't realize having blue fingers wasn't normal. Not a super deep snow, but there was enough to ride snowmobiles where I was in Davison.

71" Jan/Feb. I had 67" Jan/Feb 2014 in Marshall. Very fortunate to have experienced both of them, tho my 78/79 in SEMI was not quite the snow-fest Chicago was treated to.

Not sure you were being serious or not? GRR's notorious for conference calls and talking the downstream offices (DTW & APX) into holding off or not issuing anything. Basically they like to downplay most winter events except LES as mentioned by @michsnowfreak. I know some just north of GR have had Warning headlines this year and gotten only 2" of LES. Meanwhile, they have issued a WWA for 10 inches of synoptic snow in their non-LES counties. I had 8.5" of concrete snow when I lived downstate and I don't think I had any headline until it was almost over. Speaking of.. "An inch down already. Steady light to moderate snow. A lull is coming but this should have been an advisory. Roads are getting slick GRR blew the first part of this forecast saying there would be no impacts in Kent County this afternoon."

20F and pouring pixies this evening. Reminds me of a late winter snow when it's just too cold to get decent qpf. Ironic after Sat-Monday torching. At least 07-08 melt-offs were followed by legit moist storms, many of which were big.

Deepest snow I've personally seen - 50" OTG in NWMI

GRR: "No headlines at this time" (said in a soup nazi "no snow for you" tone) Maybe your office was waiting to see the whites of it's eyes as well? APX: "meh, it's just not the same as 2 feet of LES" nothing to see here.. No headlines, but we do get maps:

Somewhere back in time, there was no doubt a ten year stretch when 9 of 10 Dec's were awesome. We're just seeing nature's balance act for that lately. It can certainly get cold enough to snow in December IF we get favorable patterns.

I know it was before your time, but #3 81-82 doesn't get the credit it deserves. No mega-bliz aka 78 or 79 but it was a great winter for SEMI beginning in December at that. I was a senior in HS and it was the first time I saw large fresh white plow piles on top of very green grass like you see in Denver in the spring.

Losers (and winners) thru 12/11/24

That's very 13-14 like.

It was for our region ofc. I think after seeing that BAMwx vid, the ref to this winter being "like 13-14" in it's background pattern of a stretched PV versus splitting the PV is not those people saying "expect the same exact results". That would be extremely unlikely, but it could mean some other region benefits in a similar manner that we did with that back-drop. If it does happen, I think greatest effects relative to average will end up S and or E of us via seasonal suppression. Meaning the cold-n-wet connection finally happens later winter, when climo says congrats NIN and NOH southwards.

Absolute whiteout conditions for my morning commute - worst in years for me. About 6" fell at work and the winds were wicked making it brutal after such a mild 2024. Slapped back to reality in NMI.

Yeah, that was tongue-in-cheek due to some even mentioning 13-14 as an analog for this winter which I see has been dragged thru the mud here since I replied, lol. Didn't even know DT was still out there either. This was the sentiment back when I used to follow his site:

And the MJO suddenly not so bullish on a Phase 6 romp. Baby steps..

Can I hold you to that?

Burst of mod snow and large flakes now - snow globe happening here this morning. Nice little surprise before the mini-torch

Winter continues Saturday:

Scored 3" in about 90 minutes last evening, then another inch overnight for storm total of 4.2" (had 0.2 WAA in the morning). Took a few days and a busted headline but we joined the NMI plowing party. Almost got stuck this morning the drifting was so bad here.

Don't see this much:

Whiteout here now! Absolutely dumping and some wind gusts as well. Literally watching my lit snow deer getting deeper in the snow.