PrinceFrederickWx

Pann was always very conservative with calls, at least when I watched him on TV in the 90's. He also busted bad on Snowmageddon I, when he said most of the area would be 12-15"

My benchmark for success IMBY is one WSW event per season, so yes, I would be much happier with 8" as opposed to 3", assuming the additional 5" all came from one event. 16/17 had one WSW event for me and nothing else and I was happy. I'm actually thinking of counting the number of 1" or greater events at DCA and BWI over the last 40 years and seeing if the trend line decreases. Anecdotally I agree but I want to see if there's data to back it up.

@leesburg 04 Who is "Ender"? @mappy is a meteorologist now?

Just checking in- are we still getting another 1994? This was around the time we were supposed to get it.

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/IPS/lcd/lcd.html https://w2.weather.gov/climate/local_data.php?wfo=lwx

@jwilson The summer creep into September is indeed a real change occurring. As I posted in the Extreme Run thread last fall, every September in the 2010's at BWI finished with above average temperatures except 2013, which was only -0.1 below. The new 1990-2020 norms, when released, will definitely increase the September temperature. March has varied wildly over the last decade and it's difficult to draw any conclusions. For BWI, March should return to being snowier on average than December under the 1990-2020 norms, but this is just a return to how it's always been historically.

14/15 seems way more anomalous to me now then 09/10 and 15/16. Especially February 2015- how did we ever manage to have that much cold?

This is anecdotal, but I feel like we've lost all the minor 2-4" events I grew up with as a kid in the 80's and 90's. It's either WSW events or nothing. But I'm like you, hunting for the big storms.

I used this: https://www.weather.gov/media/lwx/climate/bwisnow.pdf And the monthly reports here: https://w2.weather.gov/climate/index.php?wfo=lwx And they both totaled 3.0; however, LWX has never updated their top five least snowiest winters chart and I don’t know why.

BWI only had 3.0” in 2016/17, which would place it #4 on that list.

If someone had called for a complete shutout, they would actually still be in second place, just 2.2 behind Prestige Worldwide.

The Ravens probably would’ve lost to the Chiefs anyway.

Update: BWI: 1.8" DCA: 0.6" IAD: 2.9" RIC: 1.0" @Prestige Worldwide still way out in front.

I wasn’t expecting to see accumulating snow here so this is a bonus.

I work in PG county and it was at least a half-inch of snow cover there the next day- and this is south and east of DCA. I’d be curious about this too- are there any studies linking climate change to a lack of -NAO in winter?

Holiday weekend weather is going to suck- cold, winds, cold winds, cold rain... Last weekend was so nice- I think I should move to the west coast and just fly back here for the HECS every few years. (Some smartass is gonna reply “well that sounds good, if it gets you out of this subforum permanently”)

I thought we had a coastal that looked like this in late January 2017 with a very similar setup that did indeed end up being all rain. I may have the year wrong though.

We certainly do fog well this winter.

One interesting thing in the 2010's was the pre-Christmas/Solstice thaw- nearly every winter had a big warmup around Dec 21-25. +11 at BWI now. We'll see how much it gets knocked down later this week, but so far, the only two January's that were warmer were 1932 and 1950. I had told Weather53 in his outlook thread last fall that 1931-32 was an analog I was looking at.

He’s one of three people here I have on ignore- he wrote an angry tirade cussing me out one time years ago and that was enough for me. I don’t have time for crazy people.

My Daffodils are coming up.

I loved it- if it’s not going to snow this is the next best thing. I’m rooting for a shutout now.

So to recap this day for the last four years at BWI: 2017: record high of 70 2018: high of 63 2019: snowstorm starting! 2020: record high of 70 again

The NFL’s playoff format is silly anyway- one day a team with a losing record will win the Super Bowl and they’ll finally be forced to change it.