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Maybe we are moving in the direction of making some small improvements on that front if the claims about this new AI corrected version of the EPS weeklies turn out to be correct.
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2026-2027 Record-breaking El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
Near record upper low off of Southern California matches with the extreme east based forcing leading to the ridge shifting into the East later in October. -
MPO had some of the warmest departures in the area due to the much higher minimums. CLIMATE REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ 152 AM EDT WED OCT 21 2026 ................................... ...THE MOUNT POCONO PA CLIMATE SUMMARY FOR OCTOBER 20 2026... CLIMATE NORMAL PERIOD: 1991 TO 2020 CLIMATE RECORD PERIOD: 1901 TO 2026 WEATHER ITEM OBSERVED TIME RECORD YEAR NORMAL DEPARTURE LAST VALUE (LST) VALUE VALUE FROM YEAR NORMAL ................................................................... TEMPERATURE (F) YESTERDAY MAXIMUM 65 3:31 PM 75 1963 56 9 59 MINIMUM 44 11:59 PM 18 1972 37 7 44 AVERAGE 55 46 9 52 CLIMATE REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK, NY 227 AM EDT WED OCT 21 2026 ................................... ...THE KENNEDY NY CLIMATE SUMMARY FOR OCTOBER 20 2026... CLIMATE NORMAL PERIOD 1991 TO 2020 CLIMATE RECORD PERIOD 1948 TO 2026 WEATHER ITEM OBSERVED TIME RECORD YEAR NORMAL DEPARTURE LAST VALUE (LST) VALUE VALUE FROM YEAR NORMAL ................................................................... TEMPERATURE (F) YESTERDAY MAXIMUM 71 254 PM 81 1969 63 8 68 MINIMUM 48 449 AM 32 1952 48 0 55 AVERAGE 60 56 4 62
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2026-2027 Record-breaking El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
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2026-2027 Record-breaking El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
The modoki-style forcing out near the Dateline following the shutdown of the MJO 5 forcing which drove the record warmth in December. The hand-off of the forcing from the MC to the DL caused the whole pattern to invert from December to January. This allowed the NP low to back off in the Pacific from late January into early February. -
The latest first freeze for LGA which is the UHI capital was 1-4-16. NYC snuck one in on 11-24-15. The average first freeze for LGA since then has been 11-30 and NYC 11-20. Frost/Freeze Summary for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY Each section contains date and year of occurrence, value on that date. Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 2015 03-29 (2015) 27 01-04 (2016) 15 280 2001 03-28 (2001) 31 12-23 (2001) 32 269 1998 03-22 (1998) 31 12-22 (1998) 24 274 2021 04-02 (2021) 29 12-19 (2021) 31 260 Data for November 24, 2015 through November 24, 2015 Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. NY MONTAUK AIRPORT WBAN 37 NY SETAUKET STRONG COOP 35 NY LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 33 NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 32 NY JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT WBAN 31 Frost/Freeze Summary for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY Each section contains date and year of occurrence, value on that date. Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Minimum 03-01 (2020) 11-08 (2019) 226 Mean 03-25 11-30 249 Maximum 04-06 (2016) 01-04 (2016) 281 2025 03-23 (2025) 32 12-04 (2025) 25 255 2024 03-24 (2024) 32 11-30 (2024) 32 250 2023 03-30 (2023) 32 11-25 (2023) 32 239 2022 03-30 (2022) 30 11-19 (2022) 32 233 2021 04-02 (2021) 29 12-19 (2021) 31 260 2020 03-01 (2020) 26 12-08 (2020) 32 281 2019 03-13 (2019) 32 11-08 (2019) 31 239 2018 04-02 (2018) 32 11-15 (2018) 30 226 2017 03-23 (2017) 26 11-10 (2017) 27 231 2016 04-06 (2016) 32 12-09 (2016) 32 246 2015 03-29 (2015) 27 01-04 (2016) 15 280 Frost/Freeze Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY Each section contains date and year of occurrence, value on that date. Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Minimum 03-01 (2020) 10-31 (2020) 218 Mean 03-28 11-20 236 Maximum 04-10 (2016) 12-09 (2016) 250 2025 04-09 (2025) 31 11-29 (2025) 32 233 2024 03-24 (2024) 31 11-30 (2024) 30 250 2023 03-30 (2023) 31 11-25 (2023) 30 239 2022 03-30 (2022) 29 11-19 (2022) 31 233 2021 04-03 (2021) 32 11-23 (2021) 32 233 2020 03-01 (2020) 25 10-31 (2020) 32 243 2019 03-18 (2019) 32 11-08 (2019) 29 234 2018 04-09 (2018) 32 11-14 (2018) 32 218 2017 03-23 (2017) 23 11-10 (2017) 25 231 2016 04-10 (2016) 31 12-09 (2016) 29 242 2015 04-01 (2015) 32 11-24 (2015) 32 236
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2026-2027 Record-breaking El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
Centered right under Nino 3 at +4.47 now. Starting to see a +30C warm pool bridge develop from Nino 3.4 over to the coast of Central America. Matches up with the record east based forcing for so early in an event. -
2026-2027 Record-breaking El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
Looks like as we head into late October the expression of ENSO becomes more of split North Pacific low between the Bering Sea and Southern California. It will be interesting to see if these centers can eventually merge into one giant low as we head into November and December. If some semblance of a split remains, then it would be indicative of the background 500mb pattern which has been keeping the PDO negative instead of leading to a +2.00 PDO. -
2026-2027 Record-breaking El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
Which has been the case this year so far leading to much warmer than expected conditions across the CONUS than we typically see from such strong El Niños. -
2026-2027 Record-breaking El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
February 2025 was the exception when the Southeast Ridge verified much stronger right around storm time leading to the record snows ending up near Toronto. -
2026-2027 Record-breaking El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
It will be interesting to see if the new PBC EPS weeklies actually can do better than just defaulting to climatology after 15 days. -
2026-2027 Record-breaking El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
We are just going to have to wait until we get through December and January to see what happens in February. The issue with the seasonal models is that they default to an El Niño climatology package in February which incudes many weaker events. 2023-2024 and 1997-1998 didn’t necessarily follow the typical February climatology. This event is much stronger than both of those so we should probably keep expectations low and if we do better than those two years in February it’s a nice surprise. -
2026-2027 Record-breaking El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
These October Ural to Scandinavian blocks have become the new normal especially in October in the low Arctic sea ice era since 2007. -
2026-2027 Record-breaking El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
These strong Scandinavian-Ural blocks have become fairly common post 2007 with the record low Arctic sea ice state. We also saw this late October into early November SPV weakening and bounce back pattern in 2021 and 2022. But as always it’s the Pacific which has the final say. -
2026-2027 Record-breaking El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
Beyond 15 days the weeklies have been defaulting to El Niño climatology. The forecast from the start of October illustrates this point. Hopefully, they start releasing the new bias corrected versions of the weeklies to the public so we can see how much skill they have compared to uncorrected version. Notice how more of a spilt low pattern between the Aleutians and California developed than the default to October El Niño climatology. New October 19 to 26 forecast Old forecast defaulted to October El Niño climatology
