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Just now, SolidIcewx said:

Rough day today. Got to see the best and worst within 60 mins.

Yeah its tough especially since that was an infinitely winnable game.

1 minute ago, michsnowfreak said:

He has ramped up the trolling since his buddy was repeatedly banned.

He literally doesn't know what he is talking about and it shows.

Just now, TheClimateChanger said:

Huh? @michsnowfreakis always complaining about the heat island at DTW.

There isn't one though. It also is further South and West from the city so it can tend to be warmer at times.

2 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Somebody needs to audit the DTW thermometer as well. I was just looking at winter to date figures, and noticed Detroit is only running 0.1F warmer than Flint. Detroit has almost always been 1.5 to 2.0F warmer than Flint. Suddenly, in the year of our lord 2024, that immutable reality has broken down and now they are about the same temperature. Exact opposite of what you would predict with the urban heat island effect and latitude difference. Weird.

Hi, I'm the SWO at DTW and there is nothing wrong with our thermometer. Also DTW isn't in an urban heat island either, its actually on the edge of the metro, south and west of here is mostly farms, open land or woods.

Also Beavis Yellowknife is calling, because honestly you have unreasonable expectations for Chicago.

5 hours ago, beavis1729 said:

Disclaimer: Tenor of the post is as a fellow weenie, separate from you and your colleagues being valued NWS employees...

The issue, as always, is that our expectations are so low. When people resign themselves to the fact that 10 days of winter (regardless of ENSO state or various indices) is acceptable, where does that leave us?  Even if the 10-day stretch is really good (in this case I'd give it a B or B+ since our friends in the city missed out and it had the potential to be even better), would we ever be ok with 10 days of summer?  In summer, people don't care about the indices - it's just summer.  Sure, some patterns can be 70s and humid and others can be 90s and dry, but it still feels like summer either way simply because of the calendar.

Can't chalk it all up to a strong El Nino.  Last year didn't feature that, but the winter was still horrible. It's maddening to have to depend on the perfect alphabet soup of indices to get winter.  Shouldn't the calendar be enough?

Our problem is temps, not precip/snow. A day with a high of 15F in January shouldn't be a big deal.  Sure, it's a bit cold...but nothing crazy.  The problem is that it needs to be offset by another day with a high of 45F, since our average high in Jan is 30F.  The good patterns can be really good, but it's short-lived and everything else is bad.  Would have been nice to follow up the 10-day good pattern with regular winter, like highs 25-30F and lows in the teens with a bit of snowfall.  Nothing crazy, just some basic winter-type stuff.  But it's always way up and way down.  We never get "normal" winter weather here.  It's either a good pattern which you hope produces in a short window...or nothing.

And it's even worse because all of those comments are referencing Jan, the core of winter.  Dec/Feb are even worse, as average monthly highs are higher, around 35F.

The problem with low expectations is that it makes people think they should be ok with 10 days of winter, when DJF is 91 days long. If that's the case, what's the point of being excited about winter?  So maybe we get to celebrate 20-30 days in winter (instead of 10) with other ENSO states?  Ok...I guess that's a small improvement.

Would be nice to look out the window in DJF and not have to worry about melting.  I don't look out the window between mid-June and mid-Sept and worry about it being cold outside. You may have an occasional cool morning...but 98 times out of 100 it will feel like summer in summer. No one is asking for subzero temps and feet of snow continuously; just a nice 6-8 week stretch of temps mainly in the 10s-20s (even a few afternoons in the 30s, as long as the nights are cold) with at least some accumulating snow in the less productive weeks. I guess we pin our hopes on mid-Feb to mid-Mar, even though it will be tough to keep snow on the ground?  If Dec would have been decent, the current stretch would be more tolerable...but winter was nowhere to be found in the month with the shortest daylight and the holidays. Regardless of how the rest of the winter turns out, it's impossible to recover from that.

We finally get the lakes to freeze around here, then it all goes to ****. Nothing is stable or consistent. There should be a 4-6 week period where the lakes are frozen, regardless of indices. Maybe it's even more than 4-6 weeks in the better winters (imagine that!), but the big issue is stability and the feeling of winter. We just don't have it here - it can't be counted on. 

47 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

Any posters from southern Wisconsin, I'm curious. Does the MKE temperature sensor seem to be running warm? I notice that MKE is always warmer than everywhere to the north or south, often even warmer than chicago. 

Proximity to the lake is very important here. It isn't faulty from what I am seeing.

1 hour ago, michsnowfreak said:

TCC went off a cliff when the significance of the cold snap was discussed. The third week of january was top 3 coldest in almost the entire middle third of the country, something he called run of the mill. At Detroit, it was the 7th coldest. We have talked to death about how shitty the first half of this winter has been, especially December. There is not one single person in here who is remotely acting like this is a good winter for cold and snow lovers. But for the cromartie-lites, the mere discussion of ongoing cold or snow is a trigger. 

 

Hey look I can play with xmacis too! Detroit coldest Jan 14-20

Yeah it was a cold week to 10 days, significant enough to drop the temps down for the month but not really drop the temp down for the winter thus far.

29 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

You would have thought we just went through the second coming of January 1994 with all of the media hype, yet everybody is having a top 10 warmest winter so far (with even warmer temperatures occurring now). In fact, record breaking warmth across the north country.

I mean December is obviously doing all the heavy lifting on these numbers. It was still a significant cold snap that we went through, to say otherwise is foolish.

3 hours ago, OrdIowPitMsp said:

Starting to feel more confident that a top 5 warmest and least snowy winter might be in the cards here. 

It will be if we don't get some snow/cold in February. December was one of the warmest on records and even with the cold snap this month most places are just barely below normal and we are looking at warmth coming in next week that should take away any negative departures.

6 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

Judging by those pictures, I'm sure they're not strangers to meth either.

I hate to think that is the case but there was a few pictures of her transition back in 2021 and then that picture and it would make sense.

8 hours ago, weatherbo said:

You guys remember Will (pardon me, Alyssa) from Calumet?

Laurium couple arrested for child sexually abusive material (uppermichiganssource.com)

Jesus

Damn that's terrible. I lost a cousin about 15 years ago due to an ice storm, she slid into the path of a dump truck.

10 minutes ago, SchaumburgStormer said:

Didn't they have an obscene snow depth last year? 

Yes, record breaking in some locations especially around Tahoe.

1 minute ago, AWMT30 said:

I heard 696 is off to a fast start. Channel 7 (WXYZ) I think had a story about it last week. It is such a Detroit tradition. 

Yeah the westbound side that was used for 2 way traffic this summer is real bad from Telegraph to 275, the eastbound side is brand new.

5 minutes ago, AWMT30 said:

Pothole season is going to get off to a great start! 

Yeah I have to remember where all of them are at, there is a tire eater on the ramp from NB 75 to M10

Yeah it is definitely looking real warm for a bit here. I think we are setting up for another drop around mid February, which some of the longer term models are showing as well. Basically a repeat of the last 4 weeks with the excessive warmth transitioning to significant cold.

Just now, Lightning said:

Absolutely YUCK conditions here. Sleet and freezing rain.  Side roads are a disaster.    

Bonus is I get to WFH today!!

Yeah up your way was definitely worse.

Warmed up just enough to keep most of this rain here, thankfully. Where it was colder though the roads especially side streets were slick.

6 hours ago, cyclone77 said:

He really likes it here.

He really likes being a burden here.

5 minutes ago, DocATL said:

How are your doing, chief?


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He is banned for the 9th time

3 minutes ago, DocATL said:

Seems like a psychological problem. Rather than mocking him let’s get him some help.


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He needs help, that is for sure.

3 minutes ago, Stevo6899 said:

I got a flight out at 7am, good chance its canceled? Also do they have to de-ice a plane if it sits more than an hour between landing and taking off for the next flight? 

I would say unsure on both but check ahead when you wake up.

Already getting slick here with the fzdz and fzra here.

3 minutes ago, Malacka11 said:

I almost ate shit about five times so far today

Dont want to do that

Amazing images