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Yeah I was guessing that was where thewxmann pulled the crazy soundings. I saw those too earlier--interesting to see if/how that feature develops.
Yeah, if it were to develop you'd have a severe backing of the winds at the surface, and the potential of significant tornado action would skyrocket.
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It is propagating along the warm front--you can see it in the theta-e fields. It is definitely feeding off the moist inflow. It is definitely convective in nature--no other way to explain 90 kt 850 wind fields. Oddly enough Euro, CMC, UK all suggest this type of feature.
Oh you are talking about that NAM meso low that formed? Yeah that definitely had a convectively induced look to it, although it is interesting that the other models all show it. Might be something to monitor the potential of as we move through next few days.
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lol... off the charts anyone?
Amazing shear, but not a terribly high amount of instability in the sounding.
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I don't have a lot of time to type, but man is this going to be a long 3-4 day stretch. Gotta feel for MEG, LZK, TSA, etc.
Yeah what I would pay to have Tuesday off so I could leave for Memphis after work today for 3 days.
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Day 2 Moderate risk
DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0100 AM CDT MON APR 25 2011
VALID 261200Z - 271200Z
...THERE IS A MDT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS FAR NORTHEAST
TEXAS...SOUTHERN AND EASTERN ARKANSAS...WESTERN
TENNESSEE...NORTHWEST MISSISSIPPI...AND NORTHERN LOUISIANA...
...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS A LARGER PORTION OF THE
EASTERN U.S. FROM THE NORTHEAST/E COAST STATES TO THE LOWER MS
VALLEY/SRN PLAINS...
...SYNOPSIS...
VERY LARGE UPPER TROUGH WILL REMAIN IN PLACE OVER THE CENTRAL
CONUS...AS ONE SHORTER-WAVELENGTH FEATURE SHIFTS INTO THE GREAT
LAKES AND A SECOND DIGS SEWD OUT OF THE ROCKIES. A SURFACE
BAROCLINIC ZONE IS EXPECTED TO EXTEND FROM THE GREAT LAKES/OH VALLEY
SWWD INTO N TX...AND WILL SERVE AS A FOCUS FOR WIDESPREAD SEVERE
CONVECTION -- INCLUDING THE POSSIBILITY OF A LOCAL SEVERE WEATHER
OUTBREAK FOCUSED FROM THE ARKLATEX REGION INTO THE MID MS VALLEY
REGION.
...ARKLATEX REGION ENEWD INTO THE LOWER/MID MS VALLEY...
COMPLEX -- BUT POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT/DANGEROUS -- SEVERE WEATHER
EVENT IS UNFOLDING FOR THIS AREA FOR DAY 2 /TUE. AND EARLY WED./.
STORMS WILL LIKELY BE ONGOING AT THE START OF THE PERIOD...SHIFTING
EWD/ENEWD INTO THE OH/TN VALLEYS ALONG WITH ONGOING SEVERE
POTENTIAL.
GREATER SEVERE THREAT FOR THIS REGION HOWEVER WILL EVOLVE LATER IN
THE DAY...AS AN INITIAL SHORT-WAVE TROUGH DEPARTING NEWD IS FOLLOWED
BY A SECOND/DIGGING FEATURE SHIFTING QUICKLY SEWD OUT OF THE ROCKIES
AND INTO THE SRN PLAINS.
AS THIS OCCURS...BACKING/INTENSIFYING LOW-LEVEL FLOW FIELD IS
FORECAST...WITH A 70-PLUS KT LOW-LEVEL JET TO SHIFT EWD FROM NE TX
ACROSS AR/LA DURING THE EVENING...BENEATH MID-LEVEL WLYS INCREASING
TO 70 TO 80 KT.
AS THE UPPER SYSTEM APPROACHES...SURFACE CYCLOGENESIS WILL OCCUR
ALONG THE WARM FRONT...SHIFTING EWD ACROSS N TX AND AR TOWARD THE
MID MS VALLEY LATE. STORMS SHOULD INITIATE DURING THE AFTERNOON
ACROSS NE TX AND QUICKLY BECOME SUPERCELLULAR...WITH LARGE
HAIL...DAMAGING WINDS...AND TORNADOES EXPECTED. A SUBSTANTIAL
TORNADO THREAT APPEARS LIKELY TO EVOLVE -- SPREADING ACROSS NRN
LA/AR AND THEN INTO WRN TN/NWRN MS LATE. ALONG WITH TORNADO
POTENTIAL...DAMAGING WIND/LARGE HAIL THREAT WILL ALSO ACCOMPANY THE
STORMS THROUGH THE END OF THE PERIOD -- POSSIBLY EXTENDING AS FAR E
AS MIDDLE TN/NRN AR/NWRN GA BY 27/12Z.
...LOWER GREAT LAKES REGION/OH AND TN VALLEYS...
THUNDERSTORMS ONGOING AT THE START OF THE PERIOD WILL CONTINUE
SHIFTING NEWD ACROSS THE TN/OH VALLEYS AND INTO THE LOWER GREAT
LAKES REGION. THIS WILL OCCUR AS STRONG SHORT-WAVE TROUGH SHIFTS
ACROSS THIS AREA FOCUSING LARGE-SCALE UVV ALONG A SURFACE COLD FRONT
EXTENDING SWWD ACROSS THE MID MS VALLEY INTO TX. WHILE AFTERNOON
HEATING MAY BE HINDERED BY WIDESPREAD PRECIPITATION/CLOUD
COVER...LOCAL AREAS OF GREATER DESTABILIZATION WILL SUPPORT
AFTERNOON INCREASE IN STORM COVERAGE AND INTENSITY -- AS FAR NE AS
PA AND NY NEAR THE SURFACE WARM FRONT.
WITH A STRONG SWLY FLOW FIELD ALOFT ACROSS THIS ENTIRE AREA
/LOW-LEVEL FLOW INCREASING FROM 50 TO 65 KT IN THE 850 TO 500 MB
LAYER/...SHEAR WILL SUPPORT ORGANIZED/ROTATING STORMS...ALONG WITH
LINEAR/BOWING SEGMENTS. ALONG WITH SOME THREAT FOR HAIL...DAMAGING
WINDS WILL BE LIKELY ALONG WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR ISOLATED
TORNADOES. THE THREAT SHOULD SPREAD EWD WITH TIME AS THE FRONT
SLOWLY ADVANCES...WITH SOME THREAT LIKELY LINGERING INTO THE
OVERNIGHT HOURS INTO NY/PA/WV.
...CAROLINAS/VA...
WEAK SHORT-WAVE FEATURES SHIFTING NEWD ACROSS THIS REGION --
EMBEDDED WITHIN CYCLONIC FLOW FIELD AHEAD ON THE ERN FRINGE OF THE
LARGE CENTRAL U.S. TROUGH -- WILL SUPPORT A BROAD ZONE OF AFTERNOON
THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THIS AREA. WITH HEATING OF THE
MOIST BOUNDARY LAYER AIRMASS OCCURING THROUGH THE DAY...INSTABILITY
WILL BECOME SUFFICIENT -- IN CONJUNCTION WITH MODERATE/VEERING FLOW
WITH HEIGHT -- TO SUPPORT ORGANIZED/LOCALLY SEVERE
STORMS...INCLUDING THREATS FOR HAIL AND DAMAGING WINDS...AND AN
ISOLATED TORNADO. WITHOUT A CLEAR LOW-LEVEL FOCUSING
MECHANISM...WITH MAINTAIN ONLY 15%/SLIGHT RISK FORECAST ATTM --
GIVEN THE BROAD/UNFOCUSED THREAT AREA.
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At glance the NAM is taking the low over or to our west
GFS is way southeast of us
That is as far as I have gotten lol
Yeah Beau right now the GFS is on its own with the further SE track, all the rest are to the West of it.
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00z EURO much more bullish on the severe weather threat farther North in the Ohio Valley on Tuesday - tracking the low farther NW with a broader and more expansive warm sector
Also further Northwest with the low on Wednesday Night compared to the GFS, which has agreement with the GGEM/UKMET/NAM, GFS is the furthest SE with this current forecast
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DAY 4-8 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0350 AM CDT SUN APR 24 2011
VALID 271200Z - 021200Z
...DISCUSSION...
WIDESPREAD CONVECTIVE/SEVERE WEATHER EVENT -- ONGOING FROM THE DAY 3
/TUE. 4-26/ PERIOD -- IS LIKELY TO CONTINUE SPREADING EWD ACROSS THE
OH/TN VALLEYS AND GULF COAST STATES DAY 4 /WED. 4-27/...AS
MEDIUM-RANGE MODELS BOTH FORECAST EWD PROGRESSION OF THE LARGE
CENTRAL U.S. TROUGH. AS THE COLD FRONT SHIFTS EWD TOWARD THE
APPALACHIANS THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING...PRE-FRONTAL WARM
SECTOR FEATURING MODERATE INSTABILITY AND STRONG DEEP-LAYER SHEAR
WILL SUPPORT CONTINUATION/REDEVELOPMENT OF SEVERE STORMS INTO THE
AFTERNOON AND EVENING. POTENTIAL FOR SUBSTANTIAL SEVERE WEATHER --
INCLUDING HAIL/WIND AND ISOLATED TORNADOES -- SUPPORTS CONTINUATION
OF A LARGE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT AREA FOR DAY 4.
MODEL TIMING WITH RESPECT TO THE SURFACE FRONT AND ASSOCIATED UPPER
TROUGH BEGINS TO DIFFER MORE SUBSTANTIALLY DAY 5 /THU. 4-28/...THUS
CASTING SOME UNCERTAINTY WITH RESPECT TO LOCATION AND DEGREE OF
THREAT E OF THE APPALACHIANS DAY 5. THEREFORE...WHILE POTENTIALLY
SEVERE CONVECTION WILL LIKELY SPREAD ACROSS THE ATLANTIC COAST
STATES SOMEWHERE BETWEEN LATE IN THE DAY 4 PERIOD AND THE AFTERNOON
AND EVENING OF DAY 5...WILL NOT HIGHLIGHT A SPECIFIC THREAT AREA
THIS FORECAST.
WITH THE FRONT EXPECTED TO HAVE SWEPT OFFSHORE BY THE START OF DAY 6
/FRI. 4-29/...FOCUS SHIFTS WWD AS THE NEXT SYSTEM SHIFTS ACROSS/OUT
OF THE ROCKIES. MODELS ARE IN MORE SUBSTANTIAL DISAGREEMENT WITH
THE EVOLUTION AND PROGRESSION OF THIS FEATURE...AND THUS WILL NOT
HIGHLIGHT ANY LONGER-RANGE THREAT AREAS THIS FORECAST.
Some 03z SREF maps too
Monday
Tuesday
First look at Wednesday
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DAY 3 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0230 AM CDT SUN APR 24 2011
VALID 261200Z - 271200Z
...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS A LARGE PORTION OF THE
ERN U.S. FROM THE NORTHEAST SWWD INTO ERN TX/ERN OK...
...SYNOPSIS...
AS ONE FEATURE ALOFT EJECTS NEWD ACROSS THE OH VALLEY INTO THE GREAT
LAKES AREA...A SECOND WILL DIG QUICKLY SEWD OUT OF THE ROCKIES AND
INTO THE SRN PLAINS -- BOTH WITHIN THE LARGER-SCALE TROUGH WHICH
WILL KEEP BROAD CYCLONIC FLOW IN PLACE ACROSS A LARGE PORTION OF THE
U.S. THROUGH THE PERIOD.
WHILE THE INITIAL SURFACE LOW LIFTS NEWD INTO THE GREAT LAKES AND
WEAKENS...LEAVING BEHIND A TRAILING FROM THE OH VALLEY SWWD ACROSS
THE MID MS VALLEY INTO TX...A SECOND FRONTAL LOW WILL DEVELOP -- AND
QUICKLY DEEPEN -- AS IT SHIFTS ACROSS TX AND INTO AR LATE. THIS
DEVELOPING LOW WILL CONTRIBUTE TO A POTENTIALLY SUBSTANTIAL SEVERE
WEATHER EVENT ACROSS THE ARKLATEX AND MID MS VALLEY REGION.
...ARKLATEX REGION INTO THE MID MS VALLEY AREA...
COMPLEX -- BUT POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT -- SCENARIO APPEARS TO BE
UNFOLDING ACROSS THIS REGION...AS PERSISTENT WARM ADVECTION INVOF A
SURFACE WARM FRONT RESULTS IN A SLOW INCREASE IN STORM COVERAGE
AHEAD OF A RAPIDLY-APPROACHING UPPER FEATURE DIGGING SEWD FROM THE
ROCKIES INTO THE SRN PLAINS. WHILE SEVERE POTENTIAL IS APPARENT
ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE AREA -- PARTICULARLY INVOF THE WARM FRONT --
THROUGH MUCH OF THE PERIOD...THREAT SHOULD RAMP UP RAPIDLY FROM W TO
E BY LATE AFTERNOON ACROSS SERN OK/E TX...AND THEN INTO THE EVENING
ACROSS THE ARKLATEX INTO NRN LA/AR AND EVENTUALLY THE MID MS VALLEY
REGION.
FLOW ALOFT IS FORECAST TO INCREASE AS THE UPPER SYSTEM
APPROACHES...AND AS BACKING/INCREASING LOW LEVEL FLOW EVOLVES IN
RESPONSE...SHEAR WILL BECOME HIGHLY-FAVORABLE FOR SUPERCELLS. IN
ADDITION...IT APPEARS THAT LOW-LEVEL SHEAR WILL BECOME QUITE
FAVORABLE FOR LOW-LEVEL ROTATION -- AND THUS THE POSSIBILITY OF
STRONG TORNADOES...ESPECIALLY OVERNIGHT FOCUSED ON AR AND VICINITY.
GIVEN THIS POTENTIAL...UPGRADE TO HIGHER CATEGORY RISK APPEARS
LIKELY IN LATER FORECASTS.
...SRN APPALACHIANS WWD ACROSS THE TN VALLEY REGION...
PERSISTENT CYCLONIC FLOW ALOFT -- AND THE PASSAGE OF SEVERAL
WEAK/EMBEDDED FEATURES -- ATOP A MOIST BOUNDARY LAYER DESTABILIZING
THROUGH THE AFTERNOON SHOULD RESULT IN WIDESPREAD THUNDERSTORM
DEVELOPMENT ACROSS A LARGE PORTION OF THE SERN U.S. -- FROM VA AND
THE CAROLINAS WWD INTO THE TN VALLEY AND SOUTHEAST. WITH MODEST BUT
SUFFICIENT FLOW ALOFT ACROSS A BROAD AREA...MULTICELL/LOCAL
SUPERCELL ORGANIZATION CAN BE EXPECTED WITH STORMS ACROSS A LARGE
PORTION OF THIS REGION. DETAILS REMAIN UNCLEAR ATTM...BUT WILL
INCLUDE A LARGE PORTION OF THIS REGION IN SLIGHT RISK FORECAST --
MAINLY FOR DAMAGING WIND AND HAIL POTENTIAL...THOUGH AN ISOLATED
TORNADO OR TWO IS ALSO POSSIBLE.
...LOWER GREAT LAKES/OH VALLEY REGION...
AS A STRONG SHORT-WAVE TROUGH AND SURFACE WARM FRONT LIFT QUICKLY
NEWD ACROSS THE REGION...EXPECT WIDESPREAD SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS
EARLY IN THE PERIOD...WHICH SHOULD CONTINUE/REDEVELOP THROUGH THE
PERIOD. NARROWING DOWN EXACT AREAS OF SEVERE WEATHER POTENTIAL
REMAIN DIFFICULT AT THIS TIME WITH WIDESPREAD AREA OF AT LEAST
MARGINAL INSTABILITY AND A BROAD AREA OF STRONG FLOW ALOFT/FAVORABLE
SHEAR. DETAILS SHOULD BECOME CLEARER IN LATER FORECASTS...BUT
ATTM...WILL INCLUDE A LARGE PORTION OF THE LOWER GREAT LAKES REGION
SWWD INTO THE OH VALLEY AREA...WHERE POTENTIAL FOR MULTIPLE EPISODES
OF STRONG/OCCASIONALLY SEVERE STORMS APPEARS TO EXIST -- INCLUDING
THREATS FOR HAIL...DAMAGING WINDS...AND A COUPLE OF TORNADOES.
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Some 03 SREF images
Sunday
Monday
Nothing particularly high yet but a persistent area over E OK/AR/MO region for right now.
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DAY 4-8 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0350 AM CDT SAT APR 23 2011
VALID 261200Z - 011200Z
...DISCUSSION...
SUBSTANTIAL SEVERE WEATHER POTENTIAL IS EXPECTED TO SHIFT SLOWLY EWD
ACROSS THE ERN U.S. DAYS 4-6 /TUE. 4-26 THROUGH THU. 4-28/...AS A
LARGE UPPER TROUGH PROGRESSES FROM THE CENTRAL U.S. DAY 4 ACROSS THE
MS VALLEY DAY 5...AND THEN ON EWD THROUGH DAYS 6/7. MODEL
DIFFERENCES WITH RESPECT TO TIMING OF THIS FEATURE BEGIN TO EMERGE
DAY 5...BUT BECOME INCREASINGLY PRONOUNCED THROUGH DAYS 6 AND 7 AS
THE TROUGH APPROACHES THE E COAST STATES/ERN ATLANTIC.
THE PRIMARY SEVERE THREAT DAY 4 IS PROGGED FROM E TX NEWD ACROSS THE
ARKLATEX INTO THE MID MS VALLEY...AS A SHORT-WAVE TROUGH DIGS ESEWD
INTO THIS REGION...WITHIN THE LARGER-SCALE TROUGH. UNSTABLE AIRMASS
COMBINED WITH THE ENERGETIC SHORT-WAVE FEATURE AND ASSOCIATED/STRONG
FLOW FIELD SUGGESTS WIDESPREAD SEVERE WEATHER POTENTIAL -- INCLUDING
RISKS FOR LARGE HAIL...DAMAGING WINDS...AND ISOLATED TORNADOES.
THE THREAT SHOULD SHIFT E OF THE MS VALLEY INTO THE MID
SOUTH/SOUTHEAST DAY 5...AS THE SHORT-WAVE FEATURE TAKES ON A NEUTRAL
TO EVEN NEGATIVE TILT AS IT CROSSES THIS REGION. AGAIN -- AMPLY
UNSTABLE AIRMASS COMBINED WITH THE STRENGTH OF THE UPPER SYSTEM AND
ASSOCIATED FLOW FIELD SUGGESTS WIDESPREAD SEVERE WEATHER CAN BE
EXPECTED...INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL FOR TORNADOES.
AS MODELS BEGIN DIVERGING SOMEWHAT WITH RESPECT TO TIMING AND
SMALLER-SCALE DETAILS...DEGREE OF THREAT SHIFTING ACROSS THE
APPALACHIANS LATE DAY 5 AND INTO DAY 6 BECOMES LESS CERTAIN. WHILE
SEVERE WEATHER WILL BE LIKELY WITH THE FRONT EXPECTED TO REACH THE
ATLANTIC COAST BY THE END OF THE PERIOD...WILL REFRAIN FROM
HIGHLIGHTING A THREAT AREA THIS FORECAST.
WITH THE FRONT LIKELY OFFSHORE BY THE START OF DAY 7... SEVERE
WEATHER POTENTIAL ACROSS THE U.S. APPEARS LESS
WIDESPREAD/SIGNIFICANT AND MUCH MORE UNCERTAIN THROUGH THE END OF
THE PERIOD.
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DAY 3 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0228 AM CDT SAT APR 23 2011
VALID 251200Z - 261200Z
...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM ERN PORTIONS OF THE SRN
PLAINS EWD/NEWD INTO THE MID OH AND TN VALLEYS...
...SYNOPSIS...
PROGRESS OF THE LARGE-SCALE UPPER TROUGH WILL SLOW OVER THE CENTRAL
U.S. THIS PERIOD...AS ONE EMBEDDED SHORTER-WAVELENGTH TROUGH EJECTS
NEWD ACROSS THE MO VALLEY INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST/UPPER GREAT LAKES
AND A SECOND DIGS ESEWD OUT OF THE ERN PACIFIC AND INTO THE SRN
ROCKIES BY THE END OF THE PERIOD.
AT THE SURFACE...FRONTAL ZONE WHICH HAS PERSISTED FROM THE
MID-ATLANTIC REGION WSWWD INTO THE SRN PLAINS WILL REMAIN THE FOCUS
FOR SEVERE STORMS THIS PERIOD. HOWEVER...SOME NWD MOVEMENT OF THE
FRONT IS FORECAST THROUGH THE END OF THE PERIOD AS A FRONTAL WAVE
SHIFTS NEWD OUT OF THE SRN PLAINS AND INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST.
...ERN OK/NERN TX ENEWD ACROSS THE LOWER AND MID MS/TN/LOWER AND MID
OH VALLEY REGION...
RELATIVELY WIDESPREAD CONVECTION SHOULD BE ONGOING ACROSS MUCH OF
THE AREA AT THE START OF THE PERIOD...AND SHOULD INCREASE/EXPAND
THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AS AIRMASS DIURNALLY HEATS/DESTABILIZES.
WITH MODERATELY STRONG/VEERING FLOW WITH HEIGHT FORECAST ATOP THE
SURFACE WARM SECTOR...EXPECT ORGANIZED/SUPERCELL STORMS TO AGAIN
BECOME MOST INTENSE THROUGH AFTERNOON AND EVENING -- SIMILAR TO
PRIOR DAYS. ALONG WITH POTENTIAL FOR VERY LARGE HAIL...LOCALLY
DAMAGING WINDS AND A COUPLE OF TORNADOES WILL AGAIN BE POSSIBLE.
ATTM...THE FORECAST AMOUNT OF CONVECTION ONGOING THROUGH THE END OF
DAY 2 AND INTO DAY 3 RESULTS IN UNCERTAINTY WITH RESPECT TO PRECISE
LOCATION AND DEGREE OF MORE CONCENTRATED CONVECTIVE/SEVERE THREATS.
HOWEVER...THREAT APPEARS SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH ACROSS THE ARKLATEX
REGION TO WARRANT CONTINUATION OF PROBABILITIES REFLECTIVE OF A
FAIRLY ACTIVE SEVERE THREAT.
Sounds like they wanted to go Mod but too many question marks at this junction to go mod.
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I love this...right during the week before finals. Good thing is, there looks to be a pretty good threat here on Tuesday night around MI, so maybe i'll get something
I hope we get stuff on Monday, because Tuesday Evening I work and as much fun as a High Octane shift is, it would be nice to chase in MI too.
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i thought the 12z Euro was faster than GFS? i could have sworn i saw the low in extreme NE Iowa by 12z Tues on Euro. and the GFS had it in central iowa. i could be mistaken. new Euro will be out in a few hrs and 0z GFS is in the process of coming out
A little faster but at this point for the low's to only be apart by half a state, and both be in the same general location is pretty good.
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I would really like to know what model he is basing that forecast off of
Probably the GFS, its the hot hand right now. Although the Euro 12z has came in line with the GFS fairly nicely, so if that were to continue you would have inter/intramodel consistency from 2 of the best models.
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Per Dr. Greg Forbes Facebook Page: Mon Apr 25. Severe thunderstorm and tornado outbreak in east half KS, central and east OK, central TX as far south as San Antonio, northeast TX, west and north AR, MO, southeast IA, IL, IN, south MI, west OH, extreme west KY.Dr. Forbes FB Page
Not sure what model he is favoring. Per GFS the low and warm front dont surge through my area till Tues. From the 12z run on GFS, the warm front has made it to south Wisconsin. I am in west central Illinois. the low is in central Iowa by 18z. I am hoping the system does slow down and times for Monday because I can't chase till after 3pm Tues. haha
I could see the area he mentioned being very close to being correct as of right now.
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and this..
Wait this cant be a true, a chase potential on my day off ?
Talk about a high octane potential too. Like Baro said its been a while since we have seen a pattern like this. Compounded by what has already happened so far this month.
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Operational and ensemble runs from the GFS and ECMWF have consistently indicated a huge longwave trough moving eastward over the Central U.S. during this time frame. Embedded within this large-scale trough will likely be at least a couple vort maxes, one of which looks likely to eject out into the Plains on April 25, and another right on its heels on April 26-27. Specifics are lacking at the moment since we're still 6+ days away, but the large-scale pattern is highly suggestive of a major severe weather/tornado outbreak occurring on at least one of these days, if not multiple days.
When do we tap out and say uncle. Honestly I can't remember a pattern this hyperactive since maybe May of 03.
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This is nothing new. The private sector has long been a haven for new undergrads looking for experience.
No I agree, its just there might be more than before now.
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You're better off doing something else if thats the case though, most people enter this field anticipating they'll eventually get an NWS job since outside of very small percentage of private sector people thats the only way to financially get by, unless of course you have a 2nd income...I'm fortunate enough to be one of those few to make it in the private sector but it took awhile to do so.
Yeah it's understandable but it seems like unless something were to change this would be what college grads will end up doing.
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its not anything I have heard anything about. If this were to be true, you could essentially forget about getting a job out of college. Pretty much every new opening would go to military and it would cripple the ability for current NWS employees to advance. I think there may be some bill as suggested but I really doubt that it is a "you must hire veterans" bill.
This is NWS, it just means a lot more people will be entering the private sector jobs.
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I can't remember what I got, it was either C-, C or D+...I know that much.
Yeah I think its a given if you are a Met you do poorly in calc. I got a C in calc 1, a C- in calc 2 and Calc 3.
Historic Tornado Outbreak April 27, 2011
in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
Posted
Day 3 Mod too
DAY 3 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
0230 AM CDT MON APR 25 2011
VALID 271200Z - 281200Z
...THERE IS A MDT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS PARTS OF CENTRAL AND
EASTERN KENTUCKY...MIDDLE AND EASTERN TENNESSEE...NORTHEAST
MISSISSIPPI...CENTRAL AND NORTHERN ALABAMA...AND NORTHWEST
GEORGIA...
...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS A LARGE PORTION OF THE
ERN U.S. FROM THE LOWER AND MID MS/OH VALLEYS EWD...
...SYNOPSIS...
A LARGE UPPER TROUGH WILL CONTINUE SHIFTING EWD ACROSS THE U.S. THIS
PERIOD...WITH A POTENT SHORT-WAVE TROUGH/SPEED MAX SHIFTING EWD INTO
THE MID SOUTH REGION INTO THE AFTERNOON. AS THIS OCCURS...SECONDARY
SURFACE LOW DEVELOPMENT IS EXPECTED ALONG THE COLD FRONT S OF THE
MAIN GREAT LAKES REGION LOW. THIS SYNOPTIC-SCALE SETUP FAVORS
SIGNIFICANT SEVERE WEATHER POTENTIAL E OF THE MS VALLEY.
...PA/NW SSWWD TO THE GULF COAST...
YET ANOTHER DAY OF POTENTIALLY VERY SIGNIFICANT SEVERE WEATHER IS
EXPECTED DAY 3 /WED. AND EARLY THU. APR. 27 AND 28/ -- WITH ELEVATED
THREAT FOR A TORNADO OUTBREAK EVIDENT ACROSS THE MID SOUTH AND INTO
PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL GULF COAST STATES.
STRONG/SEVERE STORMS SHOULD BE ONGOING AT THE START OF THE PERIOD
ACROSS THE NWRN PORTIONS OF THE SLIGHT RISK AREA...AS THE POTENT
SHORT-WAVE TROUGH AND ASSOCIATED MID-/UPPER-LEVEL SPEED MAX ROUNDS
THE BASE OF THE LARGER-SCALE TROUGH. WHILE AN INITIAL SURFACE LOW
SHOULD SHIFT NNEWD ACROSS THE OH VALLEY/MIDWEST...SECONDARY SURFACE
LOW DEVELOPMENT IS FORECAST DURING THE AFTERNOON IN THE KY/TN
VICINITY...WITH LOCALLY-BACKED SURFACE FLOW VEERING/INCREASING
SUBSTANTIALLY WITH HEIGHT RESULTING IN SHEAR PROFILES VERY
SUPPORTIVE OF SUPERCELLS AND TORNADOES. THE MOST FAVORABLE
COMBINATION OF RICH LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE...STRONG SHEAR...FOCUSED
LARGE-SCALE ASCENT...AND ANTICIPATED LACK OF APPRECIABLE PRIOR
CONVECTION INDICATES A RELATIVELY HIGH-CONFIDENCE AREA OF
CONCENTRATED SIGNIFICANT THREAT FOR POTENTIALLY STRONG TORNADOES AND
WIDESPREAD WIND DAMAGE CENTERED OVER THE MID SOUTH/TN VALLEY REGION.
THEREFORE...WILL INTRODUCE MODERATE RISK FORECAST ATTM --
INDICATIVE OF OUTBREAK POTENTIAL.
ALONG WITH FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL SEVERE POTENTIAL EXTENDING FARTHER
NNEWD INTO PA/NY -- INCLUDING THREATS FOR DAMAGING WINDS AND
ISOLATED TORNADOES...SEVERE STORMS WILL LIKELY ALSO EXTEND E OF THE
APPALACHIANS INTO THE ATLANTIC COAST STATES. ALONG WITH THE
LIKELIHOOD FOR AFTERNOON SEVERE CONVECTION...SEVERE CONVECTION MAY
CONTINUE INTO THE OVERNIGHT HOURS AS THE SURFACE FRONT CRESTS THE
APPALACHIANS.
..GOSS.. 04/25/2011