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Light snow and 16 here. It was actually 17 at 8:30 and the temp went down a degree since.
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
I don't remember ever seeing it happen with a front passing quickly. But maybe the front is slowing down enough for some development down south?- 1,666 replies
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Potent cold front if nothing else. Temp is hanging out in the 20s.
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
The 6z GFS does something I don't remember seeing by having a gulf low and a cutter at the same time.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
I understand that! At this point I think our best hope is a rogue ULL. Those can strike Valley wide anytime between now and April 1st. The odds of lasting winter weather are not very high.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
They made January below normal at first two and quickly reversed course. I imagine they are using their climate model which has been showing a cold February. It was the first to see the end of the winter heatwave we were in too.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
To add to the indexes. This experimental one apparently has to do with the effects of the MJO. It involves heights, tropical forcing, 200mb winds and other factors. But when it's negative it blunts the MJO's cold phase. Apparently it was negative last winter when the MJO went 8-1-2 and we stayed warm. It's very negative right now of course. https://ncics.org/portfolio/monitor/mjo/extratropics/- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
The GFS initially showed that wave taking the path it just took on the Euro. It was colder than the Euro and gave a few inches of snow to parts of the area. Then all the models went from suppression city to cutter parade. Maybe this will trend back south of us.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
We simply lived in a colder environment then for whatever reason. It was the same environment that made me excited when Margie Ison said "Alberta Clipper'. That meant 3-5 inches of snow and no school. Now clippers are rare, half the time they produce WAA and rain or nothing here and mainly produce snow over the upper midwest and Ohio Valley. One thing about it after this year, the 1991-2020 30 year normals will make it harder to be AN temp wise and BN snow wise.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
I actually believe the CFS was the first to see the breaking down of the extreme warmth and the cold shots we are about to experience. The EPS will have an ice box run, then a heat run, then one down the middle. Not saying any model is any better, but that all seem to be sucking badly outside of the few weeks we were in the very stable warm pattern.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
I know we are used to defacto warmth and that's probably what's going to happen, but the ridiculous levels of model shifting each run shouldn't mean committing to any path they show right now. The EPS is not doing well at all but will likely get hailed as being correct at some point because each run of the EPS and weeklies flop like a fish.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
I wish it was hour 6! I've seen storms look like that for 10 runs in a row on the Euro only to have them crash in the last 72 hours. The only take away is that we will have an active storm track in the climo peak period for snow, when we need the least help with ultra cold anomalies to see it happen. That's not been common in winter since around 2011.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Well, if we see another run as good as that GFS run, I'll be surprised. Widespread 5-15 inches basically across Arkansas, the Northern half of Miss, Georgia and all the way to Upstate SC.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
GFS about to embrace the multiple storms outlook. Ice storm under 240 for Arkansas and West Tennessee and parts of the rest of the valley, major Miler A coming at 300 or so it appears.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Who know if the Euro is right, but I'll take that all day in late January. We can be AN and get snow over a good bit of the valley during late January. My normal low bottoms out at around 21 degrees around January 25th-30th. It can be 10 AN and still snow here.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Long ways out still, but the storm 10 days out on the 06z GFS was a much better look for East Tennessee. Verbatim that run was best for the Plateau and Mtns. But with that track up the South Carolina coast and inside the cape with temps in the 30s, its workable for more of us than it showed. It also shows that in January the nighttime low can be 6 or 8 degrees AN and it can still snow as the normal low is low to mid 20s in parts of the area this time of year. Before that storm some northern stream energy will come through some part of the area. That run gave some flakes to the western areas from it.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
GEFS is cold but basically lacks the warm extreme we see on the GFS Op. First half of the run is absolutely frigid once we pass the new few warm days.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Very cold run of the GFS there. Of course it warms up enough to rain in the middle of the cold. Rather than fleeting cold, the pattern is base cold with a fleeting warm shot. It was close to glory for us late run. Buries Central Kentucky and north and we still squeeze out 1-3 inches with some 4 inch dollops. Very long way to go on specific storm threats though.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
The Euro tries to loop the MJO into Phase 6 again at the end of day 14. The Australian model has it collapsing into the COD through February. GAWX indicated that Atlanta averaged -4 when the MJO was in the COD during Jan/Feb vs -1 if it was outside the COD in favorable phases. Normally if Atlanta is -4, we're likely to be cold as well. That said, it could warm again, though the EPS was only warm for a couple of days before going back to a more BN look at the end. Either way, a massive waffle for the Euro and not a good look at all for it's verification one way or the other.- 1,666 replies
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Very heavy rain and more thunder than during the severe event Saturday when I didn't hear thunder here at all.
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
2018 all over again.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
The GFS goes bananas with western ridging and looks like it's trying to get a -NAO going. Just need that massive western Ridge about five hundred miles west and those heights near Greenland about 500 miles east and north.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
It's the college of DuPage weather lab page. #19 is the nearly impossible snowpocalypse on there.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Really cold Euro OP and it looks like it could've evolved into a reload if it went beyond 240. Aleutian low looked like it might pump an EPO ridge if the progression had continued.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
John1122 replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
The GEFS mean was very beefy, but skewed some by two monster storms, one that would make the bizzard of 1993 a distant memory. Something like 25-30 inches over Northern Alabama and East/MiddleTennessee with 16-20 over west Tennessee. I doubt such a storm is even possible under the best conditions.- 1,666 replies
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