Ralph Wiggum

Same. 2 of the greatest songs of all-time!

The image I posted isn't PA and I apologize if I did violate any policies. I like to think I contribute in both subs respectfully without being a jerk. Hope to NOT get caught in any crossfire. Edited to fix typos

I can't even I saw one of these earlier but couldn't get a picture but when I Googled it apparently we aren't the only region that does this

29F with dp 19

There's a surface look you don't see all the time in the Caribbean towards Bermuda in January. Tropical westerlies with a big surface low under that huge WAR. Cold core I'm sure but heck, maybe we can get our first Invest during prime winter climo this year

This didn't age well

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that PAC look resembles more of a Nino-ish regime with the Aleutian low and weak central pac flat ridge?

It will but it is going to take time....and of course patience. Pretty confident the early season HL ridging will return....at least that's what history tells us should happen. And with prime climo on our doorstep and peaking in a few weeks, we may time things up for a decent backloaded sort of winter. It certainly is far from over. We also go thru this on the reg....epic patterns produce far less than people expect. It still require timing and of course luck. And with that said, nobody expected the good looks up top to be wall-to-wall from Dec-March. Sometimes the reload period takes longer than people want. Not sure anyone knows how long the coming hostile PAC will last or whether it is going to be transient. A little tracking break is healthy during the holiday season. Enjoy it.

When JB speaks about snowstorms when no guidance shows such a thing, I listen intently......said no weather hobbyist ever.

Patience. Backloaded second half of winter. If that ends up failing at least we remained hopeful thru it all. Thaw wont last forever and the blinds will open again. Fear not.

The Dec 27-28 thing has a progressive pna moving east linking with the NAO into a full lat eastern ridge and eventual WAR all during a massive pattern flip as a monster pv sets up over AK and sends a pac firehose into W Canada and W US. Would take the luckiest set of circumstances ever for this one to happen. That's my wag on this one.

Are you being serious? The only watching with this one is the cold rain falling if it decides to hug the coast. Behind that one, pac puke city. Shut the blinds til Jan 8 earliest.

Some discussion about a 4-6 week 'thaw' due to hairspray from the 70s with CAPE joining the dark side and a bunch of 500 word diatribes indirectly referencing something that he isn't allowed to mention. Nope, didn't miss anything. Usual pre-January form around here.

Speaking of thread, you should start one. It can't hurt and as you said, nothing else to discuss. I feel good mojo when a red tagger starts one.

Yeah that's what my wife's hoping too

95% of the time yes I agree....cold air chasing precip is a fail. BUT....if there was ever a good setup with the temps dropping 30 degrees within an hour, this could be the 5% where we actually see flakes. I'm not hanging my Santa hat on it tho

CMC has it moving thru TX. ICON has it diving almost due South out of Lake Superior. Minor differences got me flabbergasted

All of this hullabaloo has gotten me feeling quite discombobulated.

North Central Oneida county...NY. Tughill Plateau region. Redfield NY also nice. LES belt....of course many says that is "fake snow" but if I'm cashing in hundreds of inches each year, sign me up.

You said kerfluffle

Don't do it Randy, don't succumb. We know it's about to enter the shred zone.

What a great winter that was.....pfffft. The kick in the nuts was when we thought we could salvage the tail end of the season with one storm in early March. Shut Philly down, called in the national guard, and we ended with a quarter inch of sleet. Please....for the love of everything sacred in this world....never again.

This is a problem and happens long before any change back to a favorable pattern. I'm pro snow and pro cold but this firehose is going to take til Jan 8 or longer to recover from imho. Like psu said tho, maybe we can mute this look some as it nears.

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