powderfreak

Ha she goes out with the dog. I’ve got the yardstick by the door. Can see my little snow table in the garden with Stratus... wasn’t expecting snow so didn’t take out the inner tube on the Stratus, oops. Will try to get a liquid amount later. Still snowing at home but lightened up and it’s probably holding right at 4”. What a bizarre event, still only flurries at the mountain.

Right on the Randolph/Jefferson line at 1,600ft on RT 2 looks like it would be pretty darn snowy. You get a nice confluence and narrowing too. The terrain doesn't seem big enough to really downslope. What you say in actual Jefferson towards Santa's House or whatever it is makes sense, those are surprisingly big hills. Terrain wise, this is some elevation on RT 2 even above 1,600ft and I bet that nook gets hit well by both east and westerly flow, sneaking through the narrows there almost like a J.Spin type spot. Probably extent that west into Randolph there in the narrows. I wonder if Alex knows how that zone is on NW flow upslope. It has that look.

My wife just measured "about 4 inches" (take that with a grain of salt from her) at 750ft ha. Looks like at 7am the Lower Village came in with 2.9" on 0.18" water. Still nothing at 1,500ft.

Yeah makes sense. Was just mentioning it's not a matter of elevation. Most of NNH is at a pretty substantial elevation outside of the immediate river valley bottoms. Every town seems to have inhabited areas 1,500-2,000ft regardless up there.

My wife says its still snowing steadily at home and the driveway was just plowed, lol. Nothing happening here at 1,500ft. Miss the good event but get rewarded with a micro-sized advisory level event over like a few square miles. It is like a small streamer that the summit of Mansfield must be setting off because it is occurring directly downwind of the 4,395 peak. At least we'll enjoy some snow cover this week.

Yeah I don't think I've ever seen it this localized. It's probably like a 3 mile by 3 mile box getting near Advisory level snows and then nothing outside of that. Even going up the road by the time you get to Topnotch and Northern Lights the grass blades are showing. The businesses around me on Mountain Road were getting plowed and RT 108 was in pretty poor shape. Going to be some surprised skiers when they wake up to find 2.5-4" in parts of town... you assume the hill got 8". And then to just have it disappear all together. I saw it snowing at 3am and can't believe it was STILL just sitting there dropping near 1"/hr at 6am. Just a standing wave off Mansfield's chin it seems like hitting RT 108.

WTF is going on?! Gonna be pushing 3+ in town. Then you drive a few miles UP the hill and the snowstorm disappears. Nothing at the hill.

I mean this takes meso-scale snow to a WHOLE new level. This thing has sat as a standing wave downwind of Mansfield, redeveloping over and over, for almost 3 hours now. Not a flake at the mountain, and maybe 3” in my yard so far. It’s not even snowing at friend’s houses at other parts of town. Like Mother Nature just put a few pixels overhead and said hey, let’s rip you out some snow.

I got up at 3am to piss and it was dumping out. Went to bed with grass and woke up to this. Its still dumping as of 6:30am. Have almost 3” new snow so far. There’s been a standing wave since like 3am coming off the summit of Mansfield but maxing out right over us here on RT 108.

Yeah every town in the mountains has its spots that go both ways usually. I was surprised that RT 2 is around 1600ft there in Jefferson as it then drops to 1300-1400ft in Randolph before you start to rise up towards the Hill/Scates Corner or whatever it is. RT 2 has some impressive elevation for quite a while there. That’s pretty cool.

Jefferson looks pretty high up there, no? Looks like the town is just under 1,500ft? Not in this image but looks like there are some neighborhoods up near 2,000ft too. I was surprised but there doesn't seem to be any decrease in elevation from Randolph to Jefferson on RT 2. That place has to radiate like mad looking at a topo map.

Hilarious you mention that... when out in Utah we went to get some stuff from a Walmart situated on one of the SLC benches, and literally behind it was like 11,000ft peaks and one of the most dramatic elevation rises in a short distance I've ever seen. I remember I have a photo somewhere of it... the dichotomy of this bland corporate big business box store, set in a scene that's literally out of a postcard cracked me up big time.

It does work for sure.... even in SNE that last storm was said to be a 100 to 1 chance hail mary with the "better pattern coming up behind it" and people starting to worry a bit. There are definitely several cases of anxiety and worry then leading to a big event out of the blue. You'll get it... I always go with climo. Sooner or later it happens. But I also bet you've had snow cover (even if just 2") up there at Jay more than anyone else on the forum since like October if you were to tally it up. It just hasn't been able to stick around yet. Hopefully the GFS's two cutters don't come to pass in the longer term.

Jay Peak area. Either the base area village and nearby. There’s a neighborhood called Alpine Heaven near there that is easily one of the snowiest spots in New England inch for inch.

Ha, I picture you being insulted by a high Gorham number. Weather is so varied around the mountains...looks like there are some 1,200-1,700ft elevations in Gorham. It’s like in Stowe... the ski area vs the village... it all files under “Stowe, Vermont” in the PNS. One spot gets 250” a year and another could get 120” and it’s all listed as the same town. I bet regardless of what town you are in, if you got up to 1300ft or above it was 12-16” in your area pretty evenly. But that’s why it’s hard to just broad brush towns. No doubt there are parts of Gorham on the WNW side there that get the same snow or very similar.

I think that entire northern shelf of the Presidentials was getting good NE flow mid-level lift over top NW surface flow. That veering combo is why 10-15” fell in those areas. You can tell when it really started to crank and it coincided with a 7pm increase in NW surface winds at HIE/BML and a temp drop. Temps started gusting 20+ mph and temps fell with CAA, while they maxed out on mid-level lift/banding. I find that combo here in the Greens is what really crushes the ski areas. NW low level upslope flow underneath mid-level banding.

Yeah the beam is definitely blocked west of the Presidentials on that low level scan. You can see clear terrain gaps.

I wish I could post a video... this wind is nuts. Little kids blowing through the base village like tumbleweeds and parents running after them.

It has been cranking wind and snow all morning but I think it’s being blown into NH by this wind. 40-50mph gusts at times in the base area coming out of the Notch.

A friend at Sunday River had a tape measure and looked like 17-18”.

Ha yeah that's true. It would be funny to see that in the grids. Heavy snow with new precipitation amounts of 0.75-1.00" and total snowfall of 1-3".

Yeah I noticed when the accumulating snow level stayed at like 2,000ft on Friday night and then even up here at 1,500ft it rotted in the 34-35F range yesterday morning. Modeled 2-M temps were off up here by 3-4F yesterday morning. Good red flag. And also agreed on the snow maps... it's a very basic way to find the QPF that should fall as flakes, accumulation regardless.

Solid event and right in the forecast zone! He catches all those inches. I saw the key was that band got in there... the 00z EURO placed it right over your head instead of east like it had a couple runs earlier.

I feel like we take the over on those too in a cold atmosphere... “ratios will be better than 10:1 so take the over on the snow maps”. I just think they in general show too wide a swath of heavy snows in almost every storm too... large swaths of heavy snow often tighten up in reality.

Some of the ratios posted by SNE’ers and others up northeast even like Tamarack have to be pushing the boundaries of snow ratios. Like 2:1.