powderfreak

Local exception for a very small area inside that line then. Sure. But the larger scale geography on the whole features a lot more marine influence in that area that sticks out into the Atlantic. The line on the whole, as an average, works pretty well for areas that are affected more by marine influences and ocean storms. Differentiating from the interior climate, wind speeds, vegetation, moisture, etc.

The real question is, where would you chose to live in a mobile home or camper, etc? No matter where you live it’s small square footage and not luxurious, but this is the place/location you absolutely love, wouldn’t give it up for anything. Where is it?

Yeah maybe I'm looking too much at the big picture. I'm talking synoptic scale, that's why ORH is always just right "in any direction" to get hit with a coastal storm. It's on the line between coastal plain and interior, IMO. It is on the axis of the large scale Atlantic coastline.

Yeah I could agree with that, it's pretty close to what the geography says. I always think of it based on the shape of the East Coast and Atlantic Ocean... if you smooth out the east coast you can easily see the anomaly that sticks out into the Atlantic. Obviously the coastal plain extends north and south of that line but, that's the larger scale coastline, IMO.

We had some decent flakes flying again this morning under the low level cloud deck in town, dusted up the roads. The low levels seem to have had a lot of moisture lately, especially overnight when the nocturnal inversion strengthens. Crystals have been forming in plentiful numbers. 8F here but no diamond dust at this point.

Someone in this area could read your posts and think you live in Utica, NY. IMO you are the coastal plain if east of a line from like NYC to Portland, ME... that sticks out over the ocean in the larger scheme of things. The interior is like Tamarack-Dendrite-Poconos line and west.

One can hope.

Even with the lack of snow and the absolute torch relative to normal so far this winter, the only redeeming value has been that temperatures have been sub-freezing enough to retain the little snow that has fallen. It's one of those things I've always felt around here... where 4-6" looks the same as 24" in the general landscape viewpoint. If you are looking at a wide field, as long as you can't see the corn stalks or grasses.... no matter how much snow is there it all looks about the same, a wintry scene. Two photos still with a wintry vibe all things considered: View from the Rec Path while walking my dog down in the valley bottom, looking due east at the Worcester Range that makes the western Stowe town line at 3,000-3,600ft. Black circle is where second photo was taken from looking back at this area. Likewise a friend's photo from the Stowe Pinnacle (black circle on first shot) looking back westward over the town of Stowe, with Mount Mansfield and the Spine forming the western town line. Pretty much everything seen in this shot is the town of Stowe (2nd largest town in Vermont by square miles). But this view looks the same whether there is 4-6" of snow or 24-36" on the ground.

Everyone just needs to go candlepin bowling.

12F right now at 6pm in the valley. Good to see some seasonable cold. Ice made serious gains up here the past few days, the River out back has frozen up real quick. Low of 6F two days ago made the most ice gains but tonight should build it fast too if it’s already low teens.

The inversion pics from this morning are wild. I love this one from a friend about how fluid the atmosphere is... flowing left to right like water moving over rocks. Can see why the Spruce Peak base area mixes down some strong winds there on that SE side.

This would put some hair on our chests.

What a morning. My version of Sunday morning church.

Maybe we get a period of snow at some point in the next few days? ECMWF has a 1-3" nickle possible. Other models not as enthused. What a boring stretch for precipitation. At least the clouds have been cool in January.

Wish we got to wander around old European cities during a record snowfall... bucket list stuff.

I can't believe the amount of open water around here, even smaller ponds. Though the past 24 hours did put ice over a lot of stuff in a very short period of time. Just not thick enough by any means.

American sounds familiar. Long time ago but candle pin was fun. Good call by 40/70... the Candlepin Pattern.

Love candlepin bowling, haven't seen it up here in this area but remember it a lot from SNE. Used to go all the time in Southbridge, MA growing up from Woodstock. Is that place still there?

Yeah this air mass is finally more normal or even a tick below. Low of 6F last night is the coldest in weeks it seems like.

Yeah agreed. I don’t want people to think I want it -10F.... just interesting to see just how above normal it has been so far. Like in October this look on a seasonal model for 2-M temps would be fiery red over NNE...and yet we are still keeping snow on the ground.

Life goal is to live in the Alps for a bit, my wife would totally be down. Those villages are so damn cool and while they don't get the most snow, they get monster dumps. The culture and mountains are just incredible. The cool weather is just the icing on the cake.

Ah that makes sense. No cases traced to skiing itself but many to the ancillary aspects of close proximity for more than 15 minutes (travel, eating, times without a mask). Hopefully it's just mild. Sorry to hear your neighbor is in the ICU. Stay well Mark!

It is a great exercise in showing just how cold the climate is in these parts. Relative to average, it has been ridiculously far above average but yet still cold enough to hold snow on the ground and stay below freezing. I flash back to every autumn when the seasonal projections and models come out, precipitation is likely what we want when these types of departures can still be sufficient to keep snow around (we just need it to fall). I think the temperature departures though are reflected in the lakes and rivers that remain unfrozen in January. The water is what really responds to the cold high pressure systems with minimal wind flow and crisp temps. Also, I hear ya on the today felt chilly. A high of 22F in the NNE mountains in January should not feel chilly, ha. We should ride the chairlifts in the single digits and teens on average at this point. 20s is a nice day and below zero is a cold day. I bet in a normal winter, your spot is seeing lows near zero as a normal baseline right now. There should be at least a couple days per week where you consider not skiing because of how cold it is, or you are riding a lift above 3,000ft while curled in the fetal position, ha. So many people up here haven't realized how warm it has been or at least really processed it. It goes back to the snowmaking discussion, where an average temp of 20F is great snowmaking on the whole, but averaging 27-28F is a problem. Folks were worried about booting up in the parking lots and resorts were worried about not having enough indoor space at the summits due to building capacity limits. Not once have I felt the need to go inside to warm up at the Picnic Table level this winter and people shouldn't feel comfortable day after day getting dressed in the parking lots at 1,500ft+ in mid-winter in NNE... those are the little sensible things that show how warm it has been even without looking at numbers. But it also is a positive during a COVID winter (Disclaimer: not trying to turn it political in any means, just tying in the weather with expectations).

I mean it's pretty crazy how warm it has been to be honest. Add that in with lack of snow and it's some combo of 2011-12 and 2015-16. I've still enjoyed snow falling and had plenty of fun ski days, but the first half of winter is quietly racking up some bottom bucket numbers on the whisker plots. So far to start January we are running a cool +10.1 at MVL and +12.6 at the Picnic Tables. Following a +5.8 at MVL and +7.2 at the Tables for December. It's borderline bizarre though how many days the grass outside has been covered by snow though from November 1st onward despite those numbers. What a weird winter. It's almost like someone from down south moved up north and posted a lot about how excited they were for a deep winter like Eyewall did moving from North Carolina, then it took two years to recover to normality .

That's been our mantra all along... you are getting a first hand look at why precipitation is always the worry over temps. Even despite the absolute blowtorch we've been in this winter. It's crazy to me that the normal low is 6F right now... at least half of the days should be getting to that level or below. This year it seems like days like today are an arctic air mass when it gets into the teens, lol. A balmy +10.1 so far for January at MVL.