powderfreak

We can’t get anything at the ski area… skis, boots, all winter equipment and merchandise sitting in containers off the coast of LA. Snow tires are going to run out in the northeast and North America soon so get them if you need them.

Gene I get what you are saying, but photography is also an art and can be abstract. I guess it depends on how someone describes their photo? Like a photographer who's prints someone is likely to want to print and put on their wall or view for fun might be different than someone taking photos to document an event for a newspaper or something. Lets be honest, every single photo you've ever seen in National Geographic, in a scenic calendar you have hanging in your kitchen, postcards, magazines, posters, etc all were post processed. Are National Geographic cover photographers lying to you? Maybe a bit but they are sick photos. Same with someone taking photos under the sea of fish life in that Nat Geo mag... it's probably a lot more murky, dark, and boring than the photos look in the article on fish. In the photos above, I don't even notice the fall color as much because the foliage isn't that vibrant around the lake in either one. It's more of a warmth alteration. To me the top one is well refined and has an awesome wow factor but really...it's just "warmer" (red hued) and one is colder (blue hued) IMO. The midday light is going to lead to a more blue photo (how the light passes through the atmosphere casting a blue tint, just like late day or early day light is warmer/red. The crazy difference is in the background... can clearly see the wind farm vs. not even visible in the bottom. The clarity in the background is nuts. I think if someone was trying to take photos for a scientific experiment/comparison purpose, obviously post-processing would skew it. But if you are a big fan of Newfound Lake and want to print a cool shot for your house to remind you of a beautiful place, which one of the two would you put on your wall? Would you care or think about it any further if it's sitting on your living room wall? Someone buys that beautiful sunset photo over the ocean for their beach house... the photo was played around with or tweaked but it's still beautiful to look at. To me it's about what the photographer is claiming the photo is. If they are going for an artistic piece, or a scientific observation would matter.

I’m not sold Saturday is bad… I think it’ll trend to be mostly along the FROPA with only scattered fast moving showers ahead of it. Even 24 hours ago the models had more robust pre-frontal precip. It seems that doesn’t develop more often than not and it’s more just a line of showers with the FROPA Saturday night. Looks like the front is decently after dark… I bet Saturday is fine and mild ahead of the FROPA with nighttime band of rain moving through. 2pm Saturday GFS/GGEM/NAM:

Some sort of strange liquid falling right now.

Replant the garden?

Torch! We a lot of bare trees ha.

Yeah I think BTV has a run of 84-85s for numerous days in here for record highs… some year in the 1940s IIRC, ha. I was surprised a bit to see records still mid-80s this time of year.

Beer? Many types of vegetation have been found to grow at ground level. Fake cold at the ground level has also been found to be real enough to freeze water on them and freeze the water in their cells. This is the same vegetation that experiences fake dews in the summer. They often struggle with realizing their existence.

I think the difference is what we each think is what… versus what NOAA/NWS tracks. 36/32/28 degrees are the official thresholds they track it seems.

Yeah it’s probably very based on location. Like maybe DIT doesn’t even see frost until 20s because it’s breezy on a hilltop? I do agree that Joe Schmoe sees frost outside he thinks it’s 32F outside, whether it is or not. He’s telling his friends it got to freezing even if he had a Davis and it had a min of 34.4F but his grass, car, and neighbor’s roof is white. My wife thinks it’s freezing, then I tell her the low was 34F and she’s confused… so I just say yeah must’ve been freezing . Experiences all cloud our opinions, a suburban neighborhood, a mixed hilltop or a radiational area will all see it slightly different.

Interesting. I’ve always seen frosts around here in that 32-36F range with clear skies. If we hit 31F it’s just full on frozen/freeze. Like scraping the inside of your car windows lol. Maybe it’s the rad valley affect. A hilltop with breeze at 34F maybe not? Clear dead calm 34F here is definitely a good healthy white frost on the yard.

No it’s not though lol. That’s technically a “hard freeze” I think they call it at 28F or lower. The freezing point is 32F but remember it’s at 2-meter. Your grass and garden surface is colder than the 2-M temp on calm nights. If you put the sensor right on the grass blades you would see it like putting your dew sensor in the mulch bed in the summer.

We usually can frost the grass and cars at like 35F here on rad nights. I know the NWS BTV climo looks at 36> as frost and 32> freeze. I think the advisories are listed that way too. Frost Advisory when expecting 36F or lower, Freeze Warning for 32F or lower.

That’s a freeze.

I think myself, Eyewall and Jayhawk have all received compensation for photos in the past. Could probably lump us into the "photographers" label, even if it is an expensive hobby that you just try to do it to cover costs of equipment as many do. I don't know about the others but when I'm out hiking I usually have several thousand dollars in my backpack worth of camera/lenses. I've shot stuff that ends up in brochures, on postcards, ski trail maps, etc.

Driving is tough somehow, ha. We’ve had cars not put in park roll down multiple lots and end up in ditches this time of year too. You see all sorts of them during leaf peeping season. A friend on social found another one today in the ditch so much it’s rear wheels were off the ground. You will never ever see so many cars in ditches on dry empty roads as leaf peeping time. Another in a ditch I passed a while back. This one was looking at the red tree they are standing under and drove into a culvert.

Stowe lot made Jerry of the Day yesterday. Leaf peepers have been in ditches all around town (can you say distracted driving?)… but this one was solid.

That’s wild. I’m surprised our garden croaked without a frost/freeze but she done about 10 days ago. Maybe that one period of upper 30s mins was enough to do it.

Vegetation looks to be thriving lol. All that water and comfy temps. You can probably hear it still growing.

I think Mansfield’s latest 32F was October 6, in 2011 but not sure when those graphics were made by BTV. I see MPV is October 31, 1975 so still some time to go for that one. Morrisville, Worcester and Northfield show October 20, 2005… but those are shorter period of records. MPV goes back further so likely the others would be around Halloween too if their records dates back past the 1990s.

We’ve hit it a few times but I think 36F was the coldest and it was foggy so no frost. Apparently light is the bigger impact. Trees are going to be completely bare before we even frost at this point lol.

68/57 Temperature definitely disconnected from the vegetation at this point. Everything keeps dying despite never ending torch relative to normal. Garden is smoked even without a frost.

Yeah! That’s exactly what that meteor sounded like here a year ago or so that freaked my dog out on a walk. It’s still crazy those can be that loud. Like F-16s.

Above the clouds and foliage.