powderfreak

Mountain snow depth went up 11” in the past 24 hours, to 28” settled at 4pm. Thats pretty solid for an unforecast or overlooked event by those of us who follow this stuff daily. Last night saw what -12C at 850mb and some frontal pooling can do… plus residual moisture behind the front. If it’s -12C at the ridges, and the lift is happening just above that (like water flowing over a barrier), the snow growth is optimized in that DGZ of -12C to -16C. If there’s some moisture, it’ll snow above its weight.

As I mentioned in the NNE thread… the snow plots indicated 6-8” overnight. Which can ski like 14”.

Absolutely nuked last night. Plots had 6-8” overnight that skied like 14”.

Just shy of 3” on the car this morning and 6” new in the ski area parking lots.

Yeah flow has been becoming more blocked, lift shallower, and deeper moisture decreasing after the cold front. Putting the better snow upstream of the barrier. I bet the west slope communities are seeing a steady fluff job. There’s definitely some right to left drift on the higher scans with stiff NW flow and CAA. Usually a bit east of the best radar scans is where the snow ends up. Right now the best returns are backing up towards Williston/BTV suburbs area, but I bet towns like Underhill to Jericho are getting it best. @J.Spinhas to be getting smoked.

Giggity. What an end to November. It’s snowing nicely in town with an inch down. The mountain is getting absolutely throttled. Near 2”/hr stuff.

1” past hour at Mtn. Getting blitzed.

Walked the dog on the Rec path this afternoon and the amount of tree damage is pretty impressive from the paste. The birches got destroyed almost uniformly ha. There’s a half a dozen down over a stretch of a mile.

I don’t know, I feel like Coastalwx has been on the PVD running cold for a while. I don’t disagree with most of what you said but I do think the long time met posters on here are pretty unbiased and able to sniff out errors. @CoastalWx @ORH_wxman @OceanStWx @dendrite are some of the best and finding cold or warm biases and you won’t find them with an agenda in either way.

This sounds like bias to be honest. Looking for a reason to be warm and discrediting MADIS. ORH has been discussed on here for the past two years as running high.

It is absolutely dumping silver dollar flakes of fluff. What a wintry day. 2” new at the mountain this afternoon.

It looks good. That cement will be hard to eradicate. Might start the seasonal snowpack.

Yeah super localized. Just drove up to the mountain to take some runs and Town was noticeably snowier. Just some flurries up here and road relatively clear.

Dumping. Quick inch of squally fluff. Winter.

Overall a decent November up this way. Two solid advisory events, both high-QPF events that punched above their weight. Last night’s probably could’ve been in the warning criteria for impact, not that the headline matters, just as a way to rank them. A variety of snow showers, coatings, cold temperatures with good snowmaking. A degree or two below normal temps, maybe marginally better snow than average, and the mountain progressing as normal… normal is very good after recent seasons. Visually it’s winter out there. Stiff, water logged snow now freezing crisp as temp has hit 32F. A decent November overall given climo. Here’s a shot one of the snow surfaces team took last night of a parked snowcat outside the vehicle maintenance building. Things like last night happen when the strongest omega rides the snow growth zone.

I would have put the jackpot in the Sugarbush/MRG area. Maximized SE flow and cold/moisture combo. I also know that before we became overly OCD about measuring, this would’ve been a 10-14” storm total. So while standing out a bit there on the list, I do think Mansfield was in line with the others.

That map looks exactly like the HRRR and Canadian HRDPS did for like 24 hours prior to the event. They nailed it on the clown maps. I saw BTV mentioned they’d do a local study on the bust (fairly high impact event that didn’t even have an Advisory until 6pm), which will be interesting to read.

No his spot is probably one of the best in New England. Gorham is a neighboring town that doesn’t get nearly the snow. So he’d see the PNS and then drive through it to find a fraction of the snow.

Yeah I’m not saying that’s impossible but in my experience heavy wet snows are over estimated if no one measured them. BTV didn’t get any inhabited reports over 12”… even up at 1800ft spotters were in the 9-11” range it looked like. That fits with bwt’s “almost a foot” at 1850ft too. Personally I think it was probably 8-12” at most higher elevations with 1-1.25” of water. Plenty of folks today at Stowe were saying the 8-9” of dense at base was a foot. I think just the dense snow type makes it seem like so much more. Step into it and it’s like wow, this is a foot of real deal snow!

That drove Phin up a damn wall every time. He was big on that as it painted Gorham in a positive snow light… and it wasn’t the case.

Gonna call it 10” here I think as I can’t prove a foot or more… though with this heavy wet snow you could say any number up to 16” and it would probably past the “feel” test. I just cannot estimate a snowfall number, it goes against my weather morals… much to the chagrin of people who think it’s 12-14” on Mansfield lol. Nice trenches up high (friend photo when they opened Upper Hayride).

It had to snow 2”/hr at some points last night. The mountains got 10+ at elevation in like 6-8 hours. Most places seemed to do at least an inch of QPF in short order.

I’m hearing 10-12” Mansfield. Only ski on the top 4” of it though. Given QPF of 1.00-1.20” if you get into the 10:1 ratio zone it’s probably a foot. Did not expect 6-7” down at 750ft.

Damage. Neighbor has a good tree down that looks like it grazed the house. Our young birches in trouble.

I don’t know. The clown maps were right but the models were pretty sketchy looking for thermals. It’s rare for the clowns to come out on top. Euro at 18z was above 0C at 850mb overnight. Most of the thermals were super marginal and many models showed above 0C at some part of the column. But I think the ticks West got us into just strong heavy lift. Best lift was in DGZ too.