NorthShoreWx

Big difference between the 3k and 12k NAM snow maps on TT.

As a kid in the autumn of 1977, I predicted a snowstorm for February 6. My orthodontist had asked me when it was going to snow. He remembered the prediction when it actually happened. I didn't know squat, I just liked that date.

Ugh!

This is a clear violation of site conduct rules.

There's no sugar coating it; this winter sucks. I think they retired the zookeeper. It's someone else's job to ignore minor accumulations now. We had 0.6" back around 12/12, but that's effectively 0"

So you think the 70s and 80s represent the real local climate and the kids think that the 00's and 10's do. Both are looking at this too narrowly.

Fun fact: there are no native earthworms in New York.

If that is how you gage climate, then the climate wasn't the 70s and 80s either. There has been no other such period in the record going back to 1869 with such low snowfall in NYC. The closest to that had more than 25% greater snowfall than the 70's and 80s.

Whiteout conditions in Smithtown, January 23, 2016: I skied over to the town golf course for those who know the area.

Meanwhile, in Ireland:

Ah, there they are. I prematurely canceled drinking emoticons.

Hmmm. Quiet here too. Here's to snowier times <damn, there's not even a beer emoticon any more> Inconceivable!

without editing. Getting nervous this was spot on.

The dong of Damocles. Be careful out there.

Bad karma emanating from weather forums.

Since we're in nostalgia mode, here is more from 1996, including additional maps at the bottom: https://www.northshorewx.com/19960108.html PS, I was in Pine Hill yesterday (very close to the base of Belleayre Mountain) and there is almost no snow left in the Catskills, including at elevation. Snow on the ski trails is a ribbon of slush. I'm hoping to ski at the end of next week, but I might be skiing on grass if no improvement.

1/13/78 ice storm: https://www.northshorewx.com/19780113.html

That was a reference to an expression from an old regional (mostly joking) argument and is indeed based on the low water content of most lake effect snow, rather than the processes that form it. I've spent some time in lake belts, and if you've ever cleaned 6" of snow with barely a tenth of an inch of SWE off of your car, you'd understand the genesis of the expression. But yes, fake effect is real snow. I'm pretty sure some of the really mammoth lake dumps can run into inches of water equivalent, but most are relatively light.

Fake snow.

Happy Snow Year!

Another 30° + temperature spread on 12/30 in north Smithtown. Low was 31, high was 62. 62 didn't last long, but the run-up was glorious. As of 11:45pm, temp is 41°

Kind of reverse here. I keep the car in the garage. When I took it out at 12:30, the car and the garage interior were still at 40. I opened the windows to let the 60 degree outside air warm the inside of the car.

High temp here was 16 at 1:15. Down to 13 now. Could be problematic with local ponds which really have only had skim ice at best before yesterday.

Friday 12/23 in Smithtown Min 8 Max 59 Range 51 degrees. Storm total rainfall 0.40" Snowfall: Trace Minimum temperature Christmas Eve morning was 7.