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Winter 2022/23 Short/Medium Range Discussion
michsnowfreak replied to Chicago Storm's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
I would have gladly made the maps if they would have paid me lol. A truly accurate map would take a lot of Time time because you'd have to analyze individual events each winter and the pns statements that went with them. These are the sites they report consistent snowfall data: DTW, FNT, MBS, DTX, ARB. Everything else is relying on coop and cocohras data. While some coop observers are diligent (myself included hehe) others are not. So what you would get is the coop sites that were filled with missing data, or would call a snowfall that had melted or sublimated a trace by their observation time, are going to have much lower totals than other nearby areas. So when you take all those numbers and make a map. You're making all these weird squiggles and circles to try and make it make sense when it doesnt. As stebo said. Nothing is better than somethinh wildly inaccurate data. Coop observer data is often notorious for lowballed snow data, so there's little accuracy to the actual accumulated season total data. Now they do have an archive for all their event writeups which is great because you can see the haves and have not for individual events. -
Yes. I've done it a few times in March (2008, 2019). Especially with our run of snowy Februarys at home (this year notwithstanding) I've been thinking a lot about March. The problem is, its an annual trip that I take with my mom who is a fellow snow lover and her love of snow starts to wane in March lol. When my dad was alive he would join as well and he did not like Winter to begin with. So february was always the best choice. Maybe next year I'll take a solo trip in March in addition to my family trip.
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Picked up 0.2" of snow today. 15.5" in March, 37.1" season. DTW had 0.1", so 15.8" March and 37.0" season. It was definitely an interesting day with the in and out squalls in the sky looking ominous as the sun would come out.
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Oh 100% March is deeper winter than December in the UP. Christmas is my absolute favorite time of year and Winter is my favorite season, so it's a no brainer that snow during the holidays is high on my list. However, I can't ever get used to the general public's fascination with snow at Christmas then wanting spring by new years. Obviously December is usually wintry, but there are a few things that could go wrong. It could be cold and suppressed and there has been times there's deeper snow in southern MI than up North. Or it could be a horrible warm start to Winter with shoddy conditions. But no matter what happens during the winter you can count on deep snow in late february and early march, usually the deepest of the entire winter. That's why my winter trips are always mid to late Feb.
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Yup. Mostly rain in the Soo. So Detroit has 15.7" in March and the Soo a T. But they still have 20" depth lol
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Wow. Meanwhile Sault Ste Marie remains at a trace in March
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Spring 2023 Medium/Long Range Discussion
michsnowfreak replied to Chicago Storm's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
I doubt Harry averages low 50s yet. Avg high for Detroit today is 47, warming to 52 March 31st. -
So far locally this March has ended up warmer and a lot snowier than I anticipated. I did think we would get a good snowstorm, but I didn't think we'd get a parade of snowfalls. But I also thought it would be colder.
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2013-14 It was flat out the most severe winter on record for Detroit. when you combine snowfall, snow depth, days with snow on the ground, and cold, not to mention wind and constant blowing snow, no other winter has come close. Nothing in the vaunted 1970s held a candle. I suppose in a lake effect belt it's easier top snow records in less than desirable winters. But even grand rapids residents would probably agree that two winters don't compare.
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Spring 2023 Medium/Long Range Discussion
michsnowfreak replied to Chicago Storm's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
We going to be well below average on the 18th of the 19th. The map you shared was for the 18th-24th, which will very likely finish colder than average even if the period ends warmer than average. -
Any long range solution PERIOD should be taken with a grain of salt. This weekends cold shot was fairly well modeled in the longrange. Others won't be.
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Today is the first time in two weeks the ground is totally bare. Though plowed piles in parking lots remain. That is a decent stretch for march considering it did not begin with a left over snow pack
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MSP only got 0.1
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I have a friend who lives in the city of Toledo. And it seems like they've had more snow than TOL reports. nevertheless, a huge difference between toledo (14.1") and Detroit (36.9").
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Spring 2023 Medium/Long Range Discussion
michsnowfreak replied to Chicago Storm's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
Wow. It's funny some winters the state line is so often the dividing line. Then toledo will randomly get a snowstorm. -
You know it's mid-March sun angle when...
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Not often you see this. Through the first half of March, monthly snowfall sits at 15.7" for Detroit and a trace for Sault Ste Marie.
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We're 3 years running now with late April snowfalls. If anything is hit or miss it's late season snows. 2005 had an incredible late season snowstorm Apr 23-24. Some years you get nothing. At Detroit the earliest last flakes were March 11, 1946. The latest was May 31, 1910.
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Winter 2022/23 Short/Medium Range Discussion
michsnowfreak replied to Chicago Storm's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
Those maps were horrible.They had interns playing around with Co-Op data and the maps were extremely inaccurate. I'm fine with them stopping them. -
If they mandated a rule that you can't start a dataset in the 1970s, these people would give up their day jobs. Locally spring snowfall actually has been on the decline, mostly because of March (even though this is a top ten snowy march lol). But of course Winter snowfall has been on the rise, as has the frequency of bigger snow falls and deeper snow packs. Change in snowfall at Detroit 1973-2022 Fall 3.0 to 2.2 Winter 31.6 to 37.7 Spring 9.6 to 6.5 Net 44.2 to 46.0 POR (1880-2022) Fall 2.8 to 2.7 Winter 26.4 to 32.9 Spring 10.4 to 6.6 Net 39.8 to 42.2
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Considering we snow off and on from October through May, and snow averages are at all time highs for many great lakes cities, I don't think I'm going to grow pineapples soon.
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Spring 2023 Medium/Long Range Discussion
michsnowfreak replied to Chicago Storm's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
Yes it went from very cold to hot. Not sure if you're area got accumulation, it was mostly east side. But we did have snowflakes 5 days in a row (May 8-12). -
Spring 2023 Medium/Long Range Discussion
michsnowfreak replied to Chicago Storm's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
Actually...see the 11pm-1am heavy snow of May 10-11, 2020. -
Spring 2023 Medium/Long Range Discussion
michsnowfreak replied to Chicago Storm's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
I remember you saying that when I originally posted it! -
Spring 2023 Medium/Long Range Discussion
michsnowfreak replied to Chicago Storm's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
I was jealous of missing that one. We only had about a half inch here, just missed it to the south. But as mentioned we have been on a string of late snowfalls. April 18, 2022 April 21, 2021 April 17, 2020