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34/30 ESE4 thin clouds slowly building in from the SW

I'd look at the towns south and east rather than the city proper because it's closer to the outdoorsy stuff but I don't really know enough to provide guidance other than through observations. There are a few places south of Rochester that also look good. @forkyfork nice maps. I hope they're wrong.

How's Thunder Bump looking? Do you think they have a deep enough base to make it through the r***? At some point I'll come up and show you around some of my favorite spots in the LHV in Patterson. Do you mt bike?

Yeah, losing the holiday week is going to hurt them badly. It's also going to hurt all of the associated support businesses and workers. Uggh...

I spend a fair amount of time in the Buffalo metro area during the warm seasons and I find it to be a pretty vibrant, hip, youthful and economically strong zone. 5 years ago it wasn't as strong as it is now and people didn't seem to appreciate it like they do now. Other than a handful of isolated spots around the state the WNY region is more outdoorsy than the rest, it's the strongest bike market outside of the 5 Boros and outdoor winter recreation is booming. If I was 20 years younger I'd strongly consider living there. Talk about worn out...

You keep saying that but you also appreciate the extremes. To get max accumulations and minimum societal impacts, overnight storms are what you want. Drink a cup of coffee at 8pm and get over yourself.

Fixed. I'm just amazed at how green the grass still is around here. Most of the golf courses look to be in better shape than they were during the summer.

Upton has the cold getting here later than Walt, I'm inclined to go with our guy here. I know how challenging it can be to get around the hills here when it freezes up like this has the potential to. Looks like I might be taking her to work and waiting for her to get out, I'd rather be the one to deal with it than her.

Did any other towns brine the roads yesterday? Why bother with the rain incoming before the freeze? Speaking of freeze, what time on Friday is the temp expected to drop below freezing? My kid has to drive home from work and she has no experience with that.

Sarcasm I've also been following many of these issues for 50 years and have a pretty fair understanding of what's going on. In elementary school we got these science handout mini magazines that I was enamored with and a lot of our current climate issues were discussed long before they were fully understood but the people putting forth their ideas were mostly right. The transition period we've experienced over the last 30 years has pretty much proceeded on the schedule they proposed, not entirely but with the perspective that hindsight affords I'm not surprised by the results.

^^ Banter being the keyword. Sorry, I don't make it out of the regional subforums very often and forgot that there's one for cc. I guess I'll stick to saying stupid s**t here and avoid ideas that are likely without merit.

I'll go with the warming climate being influenced by humans but not because we're sloppy and emissions are too high. If we had paid attention and kept population growth reasonable and within the water and food production limits rather than watching it go over 8 billion people that need things it might have been manageable. What was the global population in ~1970?

I see way too much predicting how a model will behave rather than interpreting the current weather and then forecasting the potential going forward. When I took meteorology courses in college 35+ years ago we looked at what was happening in key areas of the hemisphere and drew maps for however many days in the future using a variety of methods to help determine what could happen. We obviously didn't have the computer power available now so we used science, math and historic references and made a few maps with different outcomes then tried to home in on the most likely result. Sometimes now I get the feeling that forecasting is done solely off what the model thinks it sees rather than what's actually happening.

Yes. Unfortunately many have become modelologists rather than meteorologists.

Really? Damn. I have about 2"

32/32 NE3-5 still mixed precip but looking much more wintry than rainy. Of course I have to leave to pick up the kid at LGA in a few minutes.

At least it sorta broke the drought. Lemonade and all of that.

37/37 NE3 mixed rain and snow It's miserable out there.

@sn0wIt was a very short lived episode and it turned to rain soon after so if you weren't awake and looking out you may have missed it.

My kid is supposed to get on a plane at 6:30 this evening in Rochester, I'm hoping the "good stuff" holds off until after that so she doesn't have to spend the night (or more) in the airport. @Brasiluvsnowmaybe your son can pick her up on his way by if everything gets messed up?

All through the Hudson Valley the differences are pretty dramatic based on elevation. My avg is somewhere near 50" for the last 30 years but many places within 25 miles are closer to 30" especially as you go lower and closer to the river.

Other than the dense .2" coating I got around 11:15pm during that burst of insanely huge flakes this was a net loss. There's nothing left on the ground, even my shovel piles are gone. Onward >>>>

Well that was fun for a few minutes.

32/32 E6 SN These are the biggest snowflakes I've ever seen, it's like snowballs falling from the sky Otherwise it has been white rain since a little after 3 this afternoon.

Heh, the snow that's falling is actually melting the snow that was on the ground. Gotta love Mahopac. Not