We got there around 2pm on Thursday and there was less than 50 feet from the dune to the water line and the seagulls were brutally aggressive. They stole the sandwich right out of my wifes hand and bit my daughter when she tried to stop them from emptying our cooler, she failed Around 3 I went for a walk and couldn't get past that first bar because the waves were pounding the rocks and that was as the tide was going back out. All in all until they dredge and expand the beach again I'd rather take the time and go out to Montauk and park at Kirk Beach even though it's a touch longer drive.